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Egyptian Determinants are similar to Sumerian determinatives
Determinants as parts of Nouns help disambiguate the alphabetical reading of a word.
New York 𓊖
New York City
Even though they are not always spoken we postulate that they had always one or more phonetic values.
complements
It is not always evident whether the determinants repeat the foregoing letters or complement them:
𓍲 𓈖 𓏌 𓏲 𓁸
Schnur𓏲Haar
- SchnurrHaar = whisker
- Schnur Haar = string cord
- Schnur := Haar
Because of this ambiguity it is not always certain what the true reading of a determinant is, and we assume that many readings of determinants in the current literature about pharaonic Egyptian are confused:
We have the suspicion that the value of determinants is usually assumed to be known and the letters or signs proceeding them mostly act as qualifiers:
𓄛 Tier deer der (leather) :
- 𓍋𓃀𓏲𓄛𓏪 L'BanTier
- 𓍋𓃀𓏲𓃮 el Panther
- 𓍋𓃀𓅱𓃰 El'phanter
Preterminants are also spoken in Chinese, where 𓄜 ⋍ 只:
一只老虎 🐅 𓍋𓃀𓏲𓃮
ZEW Zähleinheitswort
we see how Determinants can also act to complete the previous letters.
𓐍 𓂝 𓅱 𓋴 𓀜 “build” = cons+struck𓀜
𓐍𓇋𓇋𓀔 kurio, chi𓀔 child, הlad ילד 𓀔
𓄡𓇋𓇋𓂋𓏏𓀔 chird / child scird ѥti: kid + !!
Terminal symbols of nouns
Most ubiquitous abstract terminal symbols are:
𓏛 'ter' general terminal symbol for nouns, verbs,etc see
𓏥 III Terminal symbol for plural nouns, verbs etc see numbers
𓇾 Terminal symbol for ‘ter’(terra,terrain) see 𓇿TA/ter, al𓏛TER altair altar
also see dual plural grammar suffixes
Duplication / spelled out
𓐩 𓏌 𓀁 greet ⇔ 𓐩 𓏌 𓀁 𓐍 𓂋 𓏏 𓏛 𓏥 | greeting ! | 𓐍 𓂋 𓏏 𓏛 𓏥 spelled out +++
Complement rule
Words are often spelled out with different readings to the determinant:
𓇥 𓂋 𓇋 𓇋 𓏏 𓅭 kite (krait √cry)
𓇥 𓂋 𓏏 𓅃 kite
𓃀 𓇋 𓅱 𓆤 𓏨 | wasp | Biene ! +++ DE ← / biün / bien see 𓅱
𓃀 𓅡 𓄿 𓇋 𓇋 𓊗 𓏮 𓏲 𓅭 | wasp | bvásp vespa (𓊃𓊪𓊗 spät) ☑ ⇔ bee ⇔ 𓅭ben/bint/bat (son/daughter)
𓃀 𓅡 𓄿 𓎛 𓂺 phallus, penis 𓂸 ⇔ phoenix 𓅡
𓋴 𓂋 𓅾 1. Graugans 2. Grangst > Gans 3. 𓋴 𓂋 goose [𓋴=gamma 𓂋=os]
Possible confusions of specifiers with word reading:
𓃀 𓎡 𓎡 𓁸 | hair | back/black-hair?
Bad Linguistics
In the past some mistakes were made by premature identification of alternate signs in words with the same (or similar) meanings, e.g. :
Two words for sky
sky 𓊪 𓏏 𓇯
sky 𓁷 𓏏 𓇯
may lead to an unwary identification of 𓁷 as 𓊪.
This should never be done since it is possible that these are completely different words that just happen to have a final (middle?) 𓏏 :
𓇯 sky, heaven
𓊪 𓏏 𓇯 sky, heaven
𓁷 𓏏 𓇯 sky, heaven
𓁷 𓂋 𓏏 𓇯 sky, heaven
𓄿 𓂋 𓏏 𓇯 heaven, sky
This kind of identification is however rampant in the reconstruction of phonetic sign values, often because we just dont have the phonetic value for many extra alphabetic signs, which value was usually assumed to be known and rarly spelled out, e.g.
𓋁 𓊡 east wind was known to represent the longer form 𓋁 𓃀 𓏏 𓊡 ( ⇔ wind bend levante )
The extra '𓃀 𓏏' could also be a specific 'kind' of east wind, could belong to 𓋁 etc…
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supportive noun𒉆 nam ≈ 𓈖 in 𒉆𒊑𒊑 nam.ri.ri 𓈖 𓂋 𓅱 𓅐 𓀝 : 𒉆 •der •ter in 𒉆𒊑𒊑 terror ذُعْر ḏuʿr tmerr τρόμος trómos δεῖμα deîma אֵימָה eimá 𓅱 𓅐 𓀝 𒉆 •ha ה in 𒉆𒊑𒊑 horror هَوْل hawl ὀρρωδία orrhōdía
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complicated bound𓈖 𓄓 𓋴 𓄻 laonge = langue :
𓈖 𓄓 𓋴 𓄻 theonge = tongue :
𓊃 𓈖 𓎡 𓄓 Zunge (tongue) 𐍄𐌿𐌲𐌲𐍉