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Egyptian Determinants are similar to Sumerian determinatives

Determinants as parts of Nouns help disambiguate the alphabetical reading of a word.

New York ๐“Š–  
New York City  

Even though they are not always spoken we postulate that they had always one or more phonetic values.

complements

It is not always evident whether the determinants repeat the foregoing letters or complement them:

๐“ฒ ๐“ˆ– ๐“Œ ๐“ฒ ๐“ธ
Schnur๐“ฒHaar

  1. SchnurrHaar = whisker
  2. Schnur Haar = string cord
  3. Schnur := Haar

Because of this ambiguity it is not always certain what the true reading of a determinant is, and we assume that many readings of determinants in the current literature about pharaonic Egyptian are confused:
We have the suspicion that the value of determinants is usually assumed to be known and the letters or signs proceeding them mostly act as qualifiers:

๐“„› Tier deer der (leather) :

  • ๐“‹๐“ƒ€๐“ฒ๐“„›๐“ช L'BanTier
  • ๐“‹๐“ƒ€๐“ฒ๐“ƒฎ el Panther
  • ๐“‹๐“ƒ€๐“…ฑ๐“ƒฐ El'phanter

Preterminants are also spoken in Chinese, where ๐“„œ โ‹ ๅช:
ไธ€ๅช่€่™Ž ๐Ÿ… ๐“‹๐“ƒ€๐“ฒ๐“ƒฎ
ZEW Zรคhleinheitswort

we see how Determinants can also act to complete the previous letters.

๐“ ๐“‚ ๐“…ฑ ๐“‹ด ๐“€œ โ€œbuildโ€ = cons+struck๐“€œ
๐“๐“‡‹๐“‡‹๐“€” kurio, chi๐“€” child, ื”lad ื™ืœื“ ๐“€”
๐“„ก๐“‡‹๐“‡‹๐“‚‹๐“๐“€” chird / child scird ัฅti: kid + !!

Terminal symbols of nouns

Most ubiquitous abstract terminal symbols are:
๐“› 'ter' general terminal symbol for nouns, verbs,etc see
๐“ฅ III Terminal symbol for plural nouns, verbs etc see numbers
๐“‡พ Terminal symbol for โ€˜terโ€™(terra,terrain) see ๐“‡ฟTA/ter, al๐“›TER altair altar

also see dual plural grammar suffixes

Duplication / spelled out

๐“ฉ ๐“Œ ๐“€ greet โ‡” ๐“ฉ ๐“Œ ๐“€ ๐“ ๐“‚‹ ๐“ ๐“› ๐“ฅ | greeting ! | ๐“ ๐“‚‹ ๐“ ๐“› ๐“ฅ spelled out +++

Complement rule

Words are often spelled out with different readings to the determinant:

๐“‡ฅ ๐“‚‹ ๐“‡‹ ๐“‡‹ ๐“ ๐“…ญ kite (krait โˆšcry)
๐“‡ฅ ๐“‚‹ ๐“ ๐“…ƒ kite

๐“ƒ€ ๐“‡‹ ๐“…ฑ ๐“†ค ๐“จ | wasp | Biene ! +++ DE โ† / biรผn / bien see ๐“…ฑ
๐“ƒ€ ๐“…ก ๐“„ฟ ๐“‡‹ ๐“‡‹ ๐“Š— ๐“ฎ ๐“ฒ ๐“…ญ | wasp | bvรกsp vespa (๐“Šƒ๐“Šช๐“Š— spรคt) โ˜‘ โ‡” bee โ‡” ๐“…ญben/bint/bat (son/daughter)

๐“ƒ€ ๐“…ก ๐“„ฟ ๐“Ž› ๐“‚บ phallus, penis ๐“‚ธ โ‡” phoenix ๐“…ก

๐“‹ด ๐“‚‹ ๐“…พ 1. Graugans 2. Grangst > Gans 3. ๐“‹ด ๐“‚‹ goose [๐“‹ด=gamma ๐“‚‹=os]

Possible confusions of specifiers with word reading:
๐“ƒ€ ๐“Žก ๐“Žก ๐“ธ | hair | back/black-hair?

Bad Linguistics

In the past some mistakes were made by premature identification of alternate signs in words with the same (or similar) meanings, e.g. :

Two words for sky
sky ๐“Šช ๐“ ๐“‡ฏ
sky ๐“ท ๐“ ๐“‡ฏ
may lead to an unwary identification of ๐“ท as ๐“Šช.

This should never be done since it is possible that these are completely different words that just happen to have a final (middle?) ๐“ :

๐“‡ฏ sky, heaven
๐“Šช ๐“ ๐“‡ฏ sky, heaven
๐“ท ๐“ ๐“‡ฏ sky, heaven
๐“ท ๐“‚‹ ๐“ ๐“‡ฏ sky, heaven
๐“„ฟ ๐“‚‹ ๐“ ๐“‡ฏ heaven, sky

This kind of identification is however rampant in the reconstruction of phonetic sign values, often because we just dont have the phonetic value for many extra alphabetic signs, which value was usually assumed to be known and rarly spelled out, e.g.
๐“‹ ๐“Šก east wind was known to represent the longer form ๐“‹ ๐“ƒ€ ๐“ ๐“Šก ( โ‡” wind bend levante )

The extra '๐“ƒ€ ๐“' could also be a specific 'kind' of east wind, could belong to ๐“‹ etcโ€ฆ

Known silence determinants

๐’Šฉ in ๐’Šฉ๐’†ณ GEMEโ‚‚ (Minna)kurva

supportive noun determinant

๐’‰† nam โ‰ˆ ๐“ˆ– in ๐’‰†๐’Š‘๐’Š‘ nam.ri.ri ๐“ˆ– ๐“‚‹ ๐“…ฑ ๐“… ๐“€ : ๐’‰† โ€ขder โ€ขter in ๐’‰†๐’Š‘๐’Š‘ terror ุฐูุนู’ุฑ แธuสฟr tmerr ฯ„ฯฯŒฮผฮฟฯ‚ trรณmos ฮดฮตแฟ–ฮผฮฑ deรฎma ืึตื™ืžึธื” eimรก ๐“…ฑ ๐“… ๐“€ ๐’‰† โ€ขha ื” in ๐’‰†๐’Š‘๐’Š‘ horror ู‡ูŽูˆู’ู„ hawl แฝ€ฯฯฯ‰ฮดฮฏฮฑ orrhลdรญa

complicated bound article

๐“ˆ– ๐“„“ ๐“‹ด ๐“„ป laonge = langue :
๐“ˆ– ๐“„“ ๐“‹ด ๐“„ป theonge = tongue :
๐“Šƒ ๐“ˆ– ๐“Žก ๐“„“ Zunge (tongue) ๐„๐Œฟ๐Œฒ๐Œฒ๐‰