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To distinguish the Turk language family, the region of Turkey is referenced as Anatolia.
The Turk language family is an oddity which can still be linked to the superfamily
"Turk" was often more of a loconym than an ethnonym, as was "Tartar".
The coexistence of Turkish speakers between Turkey and the Tarim with Indo-Europeans like Tocharians surely lead to some confusion, but also to genetic, cultural and linguistic interbreeding. See abc and oxus
Some scientist even connect the Turk language family to the root of PIE
We suspect Turk is associated with the Seima-Turbino phenomenon and thus an extreme Creole of Uralic, PIE and Pre-Proto-Turk languages. The connections to Korean and Japanese need to be further investigated, since they were also brought into the Bronze age via the Seima-Turbino phenomenon. Strong influences on China are now well documented.
Ethnonym for Seima-Turbino was 鬼 guǐ™ @ 鬼方 guǐfang <> 𓃶 贵 guì
The region of modern Turkey, Anatolia, is lacking in data when it comes to the critical copper age 5000-3000 BC. Hopefully new excavations in Dülük, Gaziantep will shed more light on this epoch. Genetically it was mixed and part of the Southern Arc horizon which brought PIE to (or from) Iran and over the Caucasus.
Genetically turks are a rather diverse group; the Uzbeks and Kyrgyz are closely related to Europeans, Whereas other groups are dominated by foreign hablogroups. Their old skygod+spirit Tengri
Kut shows striking similarities to 𒀭 Dingir, Proto European Theon/Deus as well as Chinese, Korean and Japanese Tian. Of special interest are the Bashkir people(bash "head" and qort "wolf/hero/nation") and Bulgars. Bashkirs worshipped twelve gods: winter, summer, rain, wind, trees, people, horses, water, night, day, death, heaven and earth, the one above all being the sky god.
The path from the Oxus tribe of the Oghuz via the Persian Seljuk empire to Anatolian Ottomans is well documented.
Recent linguistic, genetic and archaeological evidence suggests that the earliest Turkic peoples descended from agricultural communities in Northeastern China and wider Northeast Asia, who moved westwards into Mongolia in the late 3rd millennium BC, where they adopted a pastoral lifestyle. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkic_peoples
These signals might be highly misleading: We predict that refined paleogenetic analysis will reveal the "west migration" of Turks to be a mere backflow.
Many vastly differing ethnic groups have throughout history become part of the Turkic peoples through language shift, acculturation, conquest, intermixing, adoption and religious conversion.
So the influence proto Turkish had on IE languages is constricted to rather late branches: possibly Germanic (via ancestors of Gothic) and definately Persian and Indian. Likewise influence from north-eastern IE languages into Turkish are plausible to continuously occur since the contact with proto Tocharians.
The case system looks exactly like Latin, except for the Possessive case.
see Pronouns
Turk | PIE | note |
---|---|---|
beni/eyim | bin ich / I am ! | -yam persian |
seni | Er/Du sein | thine shen@kartvelian Uralic |
onu/-sin | on | man@french 𓆑 |
bizi | wir sind? | note -zi plural |
sizi | sie sind! | note -zi plural |
onları | on/leur | note -lar plural |
grammatical forms are very mixed but can still be recognised
Adjectives -ty күшті küşti -tüü күчтүү kräftig күштүг küştüg -tig -ig -y
Adjectives -like -lich -lig ـلۈك -lük كۈچلۈك küchlük 𐰛𐰈𐰲𐰠𐰈𐰏 küčlüg -ly -ig -y
Conditional -se "if only" ⇔ si sei... whether 𓇋𓂋 währe fir for…
Inferential -miş "seems" 𓏇
Past -di "walked"
Positive -ier 𓂻 有 yor are 𓍘𓏲𓀁 sein 𓃹𓈖 being 𓃀
Negative -me "mano" 𓅓𓂜𓅱 meyor 没有
Necessitative -meli must-I ⇔ 马 mwahri 𓐙 «true?» vs 'really' خیلی
Interrogative particle mi is linked to Negative. German: ne? asiatic ma? 马mǎ?
This is not meant to be evidence of a Nostratic ancestral language, just for linguistic interbreeding between the Getae (Goth) Saxa and Turks, who indisputably lived on the same territories for millennia.
However the Eurasian pool of common syllables and patterns is astonishingly coherent.
drag, trag, track, דרך ⇔ Turk? Taurus=Mountain
Reverse sentence order:
bin gün büyük dönmek me.
(Me)I make turn the big sun for me.
More correct:
Ben büyük güneşi döndürü yorum
I am turning the big sun.
Benim büyük güneşi döndürü yorum
I am turning my big sun.
Interesting sound shift ör⇨ö
Döner < drehn turn
mögen < mörgen 𓌸
Turk seem to have been central in the formation of Egyptian words:
The silence of ğ was captured perfectly by philosophical logicians:
𓊃 𓐍 𓄔 | be deaf | •sagir > sağır 𓋴 𓎼 𓂋 𓀁 silence, see there for more!
𓊃 𓄡 𓏮 𓄔 | be deaf | •sağurdos > surdus
𒊒𒁳𒌅 ru-ṭib-tu rutubetli
𒊒𒁳𒌅 damp ground, dampness
𒆧𒈬 kis-mu kismu kesim@Turk “cutting”
𒄷𒊓𒁍 ḫu-sa-bu | twig | сыбыҡ sïbïq > çöp@Turk շիվ šiv
𒄷𒊓𒁍 ḫu-sa-bu | twig | сыбыҡ sïbïq < Zweig < twig •tibig ⇔ ботаҡ botaq botany
𒆥𒈾𒍪 qin-na-zu | whip | •qinzu qamçı ҡамсы qamsï камши́к kamšík cambuk @Turk=>Slav 𓋴 𓏇 𓇋 𓄛 𓏤 •gamisi/gamiter
𓃀 𓂝 𓈖 𓏏 𓅿 | neck | boyun™@Turk
𓏏 𓎡 𓈖 𓂻 | be near | жакын ᵈjaqın ᵈyakın @Turk яҡын ᵈyaqïn جاقىن ⇔ 𒋼𒄷 ṭe-ḫuⁿ
𓏏 𓍯 𓄿 𓀁 | claim | दावा dāvā® دَعْوَى daʿwā < darben > দাবী dabī դաւի dawi դավա dava @ Turk +++
𓎛 𓍿 𓏏 𓃤 | hyena | hygeia™@Turk
𓍲 𓈖 𓅨 𓂋 | ocean | deňiz@Turk ⇔ ⲧⲱⲛⲟⲩ = very
𓎡 𓎡 𓅱 𓇰 | darkness | gece@Turk kikilia kaka
𓋴 𓍿 𓊪 𓂻 | leap up | •scoip zoupler@Walloon zıplamak@Turk sıçramak !!
𓂝 𓅓 𓀁 | swallow | ⲱⲙⲕ ōmk almak@Turk < ˢwˡmak
𓊪 𓊃 𓊮 | cook | poz@Turk pessō@Greek poaz@Breton poxte@Persian пеш поз pac@Sansk pakku@Tocharian
𓊃 𓏏 𓁐 | woman, wife | choť xotin *katun@Turk > qatın Gattin *zattin soţie ceteri astrid?
𓊃 𓊪 𓊗 | condition | spart > شَرْط šarṭ शर्त śart śôrt (sort!?) şert (Kurdish) шарт şart@Turk
𓈖 𓎡 𓈖 𓂿 | harm | anachain@Irish incinme@Turk נזק nézekim
𓈖 𓄓 𓊃 𓅱 𓏏 𓈔 | javelin | naýza™@Turk 𐎴𐎡𐏀𐎣 naizaka نیزه найза նիզակ nizak
𓈖 𓍇 𓏌 𓅱 𓇋 𓇋 𓂻 | return | нанарға nanarğa@Turk
𓈖 𓈟 𓅓 𓀜 | save, rescue | Notma নাজাত najat necat наҷот najot نجات nejât <<
𓈖 𓂋 𓏏 𓅭 | vulture | נשר nesher نَظَر naẓar nazar@Turk nasar@Malay nTr Goddess!
𓈖 𓂋 𓏏 𓅐 | vulture | nrt ⇔ nature נשר nesher nazar nurture nVurture>1.vulture
𓅨 𓂋 𓎛 𓎯 𓏪 | ointment | merhem μύρον मरहम المرهم marham
𓅧 𓈎 𓂻 𓀀 𓁐 𓏥 | friends | arkadaş@Turk
𓄿 𓍿 𓇋 𓇋 𓏏 | nurse | dojčiť до́йка doică дой (doj, “nurishment, milking” ⇔ dūd:milk +++
𓄿 𓍿 𓇋 𓇋 𓏏 | nurse | a'ṱaid > δάδα dáda dada@HUN dadı@Turk dădacă до́йка doică δαίω daíō
𓂧 𓊪 𓏏 𓄓 𓀁 | taste | Duft < daphte > taste +++
𓂧 𓊪 𓏏 𓄓 𓀁 | taste | dapht > dvad > طات дад dad > tat ⇔ taste @ Turk
𓂧 𓊪 𓏏 𓄓 𓀁 | taste | δaphat ⇔ સ્વાદ svād स्वाद svād® ⇔ savôr ++
𓀋 𓏪 | profession | 𓂓 kär@Turk
𒌇 tuku
The shamanic faces of Gobleki Tepe are well preserved in Skythian Deer_stones