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- 2009-12-05 01:44:58 : higaki@äŒå Ž : æ¬æ¥ 13 æããã第39å Ruby/Rails å匷äŒ@é¢è¥¿ éå¬ããŸãã
- 2009-12-05 01:50:56 : higaki@äŒå Ž : mopirun ã®ã€ãã³ãäœããŸãããã€ãã³ãã³ãŒã㯠7418 - 2358 - 0316
- 2009-12-05 13:08:30 : ujihisa : hi
- 2009-12-05 13:08:50 : ujm : hi
- 2009-12-05 13:08:58 : no6v : hi
- 2009-12-05 13:09:04 : ujm : hi
- 2009-12-05 13:10:57 : no6v : atakigããã¯ãã©ãçããã ãã
- 2009-12-05 13:11:38 : Sixeight : hi
- 2009-12-05 13:11:48 : stoyan : hi
- 2009-12-05 13:11:54 : kazuki : hi
- 2009-12-05 13:12:01 : Sixeight@äŒå Ž : ãããªæãã§ã
- 2009-12-05 13:12:07 : kazuki@äŒå Ž : hihi
- 2009-12-05 13:12:33 : stoyan : 仿¥ã¿ããª
- 2009-12-05 13:12:42 : stoyan : è±èªããã
- 2009-12-05 13:13:00 : Sixeight@äŒå Ž : é²ç»ãè¥å¹²é ããŸããïŒïŒ
- 2009-12-05 13:13:00 : bush39274 : /nickname gnnk@äŒå Ž
- 2009-12-05 13:13:17 : no6v : Sixeight: ãã³ãã€
- 2009-12-05 13:15:02 : Sixeight@äŒå Ž : ustã®æ¹ã¹ã©ã€ãèŠããŠãŸããïŒ
- 2009-12-05 13:15:36 : coward26510 : prototechno@äŒå Ž/nick nickname
- 2009-12-05 13:15:54 : coward26510 : ããããããã§ãã
- 2009-12-05 13:16:18 : Sixeight@äŒå Ž : ïŒnick åå
- 2009-12-05 13:16:20 : Sixeight@äŒå Ž : ã§ã
- 2009-12-05 13:16:29 : Sixeight@äŒå Ž : ïŒã¯åè§ã§
- 2009-12-05 13:16:51 : coward26510 : nick prototechno@äŒå Ž
- 2009-12-05 13:17:16 : prototechno@äŒå Ž : ã§ããŸããããããã ãã§ãã
- 2009-12-05 13:18:07 : Sixeight@äŒå Ž : my pleasure
- 2009-12-05 13:18:25 : no6v : ããå°ãå³ã«æ¯ã£ãŠãºãŒã ããŠãããããã< ust
- 2009-12-05 13:19:11 : ujm : vim
- 2009-12-05 13:19:28 : Sixeight@äŒå Ž : ãã©ã€ããããããšããèŠåãåºãŠçްããèšå®ãã§ããªããªã£ãŠãŸãïŒïŒ
- 2009-12-05 13:19:30 : prototechno@äŒå Ž : åŸãã ãšç»é¢ã®çްããæåèŠããªããªã
- 2009-12-05 13:19:44 : ujm : ã ãããCmd++ããšäŒããŠãã ãã
- 2009-12-05 13:21:39 : prototechno@äŒå Ž : gmail ã®ã¢ã«ãŠã³ãã§ãã°ã€ã³ããªããã®ã¯ã©ãã§ã?
- 2009-12-05 13:25:58 : okkez : http://code.google.com/p/roma-prj/wiki/Index_ja
- 2009-12-05 13:27:12 : no6v : ããããïŒïŒ
- 2009-12-05 13:27:17 : ujm : "æè¿ç¡è¶èŠè¶RTããŸãã£ãŠããŸã"
- 2009-12-05 13:27:26 : okkez : ç»åã®ããŠã³ããŒã
- 2009-12-05 13:27:27 : ujm : 932
- 2009-12-05 13:27:28 : cyross@äŒå Ž : ã¯ãã¹ãã
- 2009-12-05 13:27:39 : ujm : 68*932
- 2009-12-05 13:28:04 : okkez : Hiki ã®ãã©ã°ã€ã³ãäœã
- 2009-12-05 13:28:45 : raito@äŒå Ž : å°ç
- 2009-12-05 13:31:33 : okkez : ããããŒã§ããããããã
- 2009-12-05 13:31:41 : okkez : Air ãåºãŸããŸãã
- 2009-12-05 13:31:47 : ujm : wwww
- 2009-12-05 13:31:57 : okkez : 埩掻
- 2009-12-05 13:32:12 : ujm : Vim
- 2009-12-05 13:32:34 : okkez : irb ãã¢
- 2009-12-05 13:32:50 : ujm : Cmd-+
- 2009-12-05 13:32:56 : roosevelt16762 : ããããŒãããããããããŒ
- 2009-12-05 13:33:29 : okkez : ;nil
- 2009-12-05 13:34:48 : yalab@äŒå Ž : ããããŒ
- 2009-12-05 13:35:33 : okkez : Redmine ã«ãã±ããã远å ããŸãã
- 2009-12-05 13:35:52 : okkez : Excel ã®è¡šãããŒã¹ã㊠Redmine ã«ãã±ããã远å ããŸãã
- 2009-12-05 13:36:22 : okkez : ãã¬ãŒã³ããŒã·ã§ã³ zen
- 2009-12-05 13:37:10 : okkez : äŒæ©
- 2009-12-05 13:37:15 : cyross@äŒå Ž : 次ã§ãã
- 2009-12-05 13:37:27 : cyross@äŒå Ž : äžæŠé¢è±ããŸã
- 2009-12-05 13:37:49 : mollifier@äŒå Ž : äŒæ©
- 2009-12-05 13:39:22 : no6v_ : see you later
- 2009-12-05 13:47:26 : Sixeight : ã
- 2009-12-05 13:47:55 : Sixeight : ïŒ ãã€ãããšå人çã«é ããã®ã§ãã
- 2009-12-05 13:53:24 : okkez : python
- 2009-12-05 13:53:31 : okkez : ãã³ãžã¥ãŒã«
- 2009-12-05 13:53:46 : okkez : Miyako æ¬ 12/18 çºå£²äºå®ïŒ
- 2009-12-05 13:54:35 : okkez : http://stack.nayutaya.jp/book/4839932115
- 2009-12-05 13:55:44 : okkez : Sun ããã©ãè¡ã£ãã®ããšæã£ãã EY ã«è¡ã£ãŠãã®ã
- 2009-12-05 13:56:11 : ujm : ããªãã äžç·ã«é£äºããŠããŸãã
- 2009-12-05 13:56:26 : okkez : ïŒ
- 2009-12-05 13:57:02 : okkez : windows ã®äººã¯ä»ããã€ã³ã¹ããŒã«ãããš20-30min ããããŸã
- 2009-12-05 13:57:06 : prototechno@äŒå Ž : ããŸJRubyå ¥ããŠãŸãã
- 2009-12-05 13:57:33 : okkez : ã€ã³ã¹ããŒã«ããŠããªã人ã¯åå諊ãã€ã€ã話ã«éäžããã®ãåããšã
- 2009-12-05 13:57:44 : prototechno@äŒå Ž : æ¶
- 2009-12-05 13:58:14 : okkez : ã€ã³ã¹ããŒã«ã«éç¹ã眮ããã«è©±ãèãæ¹ã«éäžããã®ãããããããŸã
- 2009-12-05 13:58:42 : prototechno@äŒå Ž : äºè§£ GAEãããæšå€ããããããå ¥ã£ãŠããã®ããã?
- 2009-12-05 13:59:14 : prototechno@äŒå Ž : åããŸãã!
- 2009-12-05 13:59:49 : prototechno@äŒå Ž : jirbã§ããŠãŸã
- 2009-12-05 14:00:11 : okkez : swing ã swt ã(ry
- 2009-12-05 14:00:15 : ujm : JRubyConfãæãåºã
- 2009-12-05 14:01:59 : prototechno@äŒå Ž : 远ãã€ããŠãŸã
- 2009-12-05 14:02:24 : Sixeight : Hello Java World!
- 2009-12-05 14:04:38 : Sixeight : dt.methods ã§ãã
- 2009-12-05 14:04:55 : higaki@äŒå Ž : ãã¡ãã¡ã¯ã©ã¹ã®ãã«ããŒã å ¥åããã®ãé¢åèãã
- 2009-12-05 14:04:58 : agilekawabata@äŒå Ž : ãªãã§ã¯ã€ã«ãã«ãŒã䜿ããªããã ãã䜿ããã䟿å©ãã®ã«ã
- 2009-12-05 14:05:46 : okkez : ã¯ã€ã«ãã«ãŒãã¯è¡åãæªã
- 2009-12-05 14:05:55 : okkez : http://q.okkez.net/subjects/22 ã¢ã³ã±ãŒã
- 2009-12-05 14:06:07 : ujm : const_missingã§(ry
- 2009-12-05 14:06:14 : agilekawabata@äŒå Ž : ã»ãã³ãã³ãä»ããªããŠããã®ã¯ãããªã
- 2009-12-05 14:06:31 : Sixeight : ()ããªãã®ã(ry
- 2009-12-05 14:07:06 : okkez : snake_case vs camelCase vs PascalCase
- 2009-12-05 14:07:22 : raito@äŒå Ž : cal.time=() ãããªããã
- 2009-12-05 14:07:44 : stoyan : vs HaX0rCaSe ;)
- 2009-12-05 14:08:22 : ujm : handy
- 2009-12-05 14:08:32 : stoyan : benri ;)
- 2009-12-05 14:08:44 : ujm : benry
- 2009-12-05 14:09:36 : prototechno@äŒå Ž : ãªãã ããããããããã2009ãŸã§ã¯åºã
- 2009-12-05 14:10:12 : Sixeight : venry
- 2009-12-05 14:10:16 : gnnk@äŒå Ž : YEAR ã MONTH ã«ãããšã11ã«ãªãã®ã¯ã©ãããŠïŒ
- 2009-12-05 14:10:27 : Sixeight : 0-11?
- 2009-12-05 14:10:28 : ohac@äŒå Ž : 0ãªãªãžã³ãªã®ã§ã
- 2009-12-05 14:10:37 : okkez : java ã®ã«ã¬ã³ããŒã¯ã©ã¹ã®æ £äŸã§ 0 ãªãªãžã³ãªã®ã§ã
- 2009-12-05 14:10:58 : okkez : ãã®ä»æ§ã ãã¯ãã€ãäžåééãã
- 2009-12-05 14:11:32 : gnnk@äŒå Ž : ãããªãã§ããã
- 2009-12-05 14:12:10 : higaki@äŒå Ž : æ¥æ¬ã§ã¯äœ¿ãã«ãããã >MONTH ã® 0 ãªãªãžã³
- 2009-12-05 14:12:33 : okkez : ãã£ã±ã ã垫走ããšãè¿ã£ãŠããŠæ¬²ãã
- 2009-12-05 14:12:50 : raito@äŒå Ž : NetBeansã®jrubyã®ç°å¢å€æ°èšå®ãå€ããªã
- 2009-12-05 14:13:08 : okkez : äžèŠãªãããã
- 2009-12-05 14:13:16 : ujm : # coding: utf-8
- 2009-12-05 14:13:32 : higaki@äŒå Ž : jirb ã§ã¯ readline ã®åãããããããMac ã ã?
- 2009-12-05 14:13:36 : ujm : 1.æ.java_representation #=> 0
- 2009-12-05 14:16:18 : okkez : ãã®æéã§ jdk ãå ¥ããã®ã¯å°é£ã
- 2009-12-05 14:16:25 : okkez : ããŠã³ããŒããã§ããªãããã
- 2009-12-05 14:16:36 : ujm : jdk
- 2009-12-05 14:16:41 : ujm : jk and dk
- 2009-12-05 14:20:05 : agilekawabata@äŒå Ž : Maybe IRB bug!! ã£ãŠ..
- 2009-12-05 14:20:48 : ohac@äŒå Ž : import ããŠãªã?
- 2009-12-05 14:21:19 : ohac@äŒå Ž : import 'com.test.ByteTest' ããª?
- 2009-12-05 14:26:42 : Sixeight : ã¹ã¯ãªãŒã³ãã¿ãŠæžããã®ã§set_bytes
- 2009-12-05 14:31:17 : [email protected] : ã€ããŠãããªãã»ã»ã»
- 2009-12-05 14:32:00 : mollifier@äŒå Ž : ããŒãã§ãã
- 2009-12-05 14:34:13 : okkez : åçŽè åãã¬ãã¹ã³ã®æéãçãããã®ã§åé¡ç¡ã
- 2009-12-05 14:35:34 : prototechno@äŒå Ž : "1.9.2dev" ã§ãã
- 2009-12-05 14:35:50 : higaki@äŒå Ž : ããã! Java ã®ã¯ã©ã¹ã£ãŠãã£ã¬ã¯ããªã蟿ã£ãŠèŠã€ãããã ããããªç°¡åãªããšãå¿ããŠã ïŒïŒ
- 2009-12-05 14:38:54 : okkez : force_encoding ã¯è£æã
- 2009-12-05 14:39:16 : higaki@äŒå Ž : jirb ã£ãŠ ïœ ïœïœïœ (ãã«ããã€ã) ã§ãã¡ãããšçµäºããã!! ã£ãŠãã«ããã€ããªãäœå ¥åããŠãçµäºããã®ãã
- 2009-12-05 14:39:47 : okkez : äœãããããã ããïŒ
- 2009-12-05 14:40:10 : prototechno@äŒå Ž : MacCocoaãªãã§1.9䜿ã£ãŠãŸã
- 2009-12-05 14:40:28 : ayu : ããŸããããããã
- 2009-12-05 14:40:33 : Sixeight : ãã«ããã€ã䟿å©ïŒ
- 2009-12-05 14:40:48 : okkez : jruby_complete.jar ã¯äŸ¿å©ããã
- 2009-12-05 14:41:13 : [email protected] : ããããªããã
- 2009-12-05 14:41:25 : [email protected] : g ã§ãã
- 2009-12-05 14:41:59 : ayu : g 倧人æ°ã
- 2009-12-05 14:43:07 : mollifier@äŒå Ž : g ã£ãŠ1æåããw
- 2009-12-05 14:44:03 : ohac@äŒå Ž : å°ã£ãã irb(main):001:0> çµäº[Enter]
- 2009-12-05 14:44:20 : ujm : g
- 2009-12-05 14:46:06 : prototechno@äŒå Ž : com.test.ObjectTest ã®ãšãã§ã€ããŠãããªããªã£ã...orz
- 2009-12-05 14:51:14 : ujm : tagawaãããèŠãã
- 2009-12-05 14:56:09 : prototechno@äŒå Ž : g require ã§ããã»ã»ã»ãããããã
- 2009-12-05 14:58:04 : okkez : ãããã§äžåïŒäºåãã§ãã
- 2009-12-05 14:58:14 : mollifier@äŒå Ž : ã¯ããŸãã
- 2009-12-05 14:58:24 : Sixeight : ãã¿ãŸãã...ãã£ãããææã«å¿ æ»ã§åºã ãããããŸãã£ãŠããŸã...(é²ç»ïŒ
- 2009-12-05 14:58:53 : okkez : ãããé²ç»ã«å¿ æ»ã«ãªã£ãŠã»ãã
- 2009-12-05 14:58:53 : agilekawabata@äŒå Ž : ã±ãŒãã£ãŠPHPãããªãããïŒ
- 2009-12-05 14:59:05 : okkez : çããŠããããã±ãŒãã§ã
- 2009-12-05 14:59:09 : prototechno@äŒå Ž : çŸå³ããæ¹ã§ãã?
- 2009-12-05 14:59:52 : okkez : windows ã䜿ããªãã®ã§ãããªã察象ããå€ããŠããŸããŸãã
- 2009-12-05 15:00:20 : prototechno@äŒå Ž : åå¿è ã ãã©ã察象å€ã§ãw
- 2009-12-05 15:00:27 : okkez : UTF-8 ã¯äœ¿ããªããšã
- 2009-12-05 15:00:34 : ayu : 䜿ããªããšãŒ
- 2009-12-05 15:01:10 : Sixeight : windowsãã€ã¹ããã¹
- 2009-12-05 15:01:11 : agilekawabata@äŒå Ž : äŸãã°ãnew Object ãŠã®ãçŽç²ãããªã
- 2009-12-05 15:01:39 : okkez : windows ãªããŠäœ¿ã£ãŠããŸããããŒ
- 2009-12-05 15:01:47 : prototechno@äŒå Ž : Parallels ã®äžã§XPåããŠãŸããã©
- 2009-12-05 15:01:51 : okkez : shift_jis ãããªã㊠cp932 ã ãã
- 2009-12-05 15:02:10 : Sixeight : cp932ã«ã¯ã€ã€ãã¹
- 2009-12-05 15:02:35 : okkez : cp932 ã¯ååšãéªæªããã
- 2009-12-05 15:03:07 : okkez : ãRubyã¯ãµãŒããŒç®¡çã®åã
- 2009-12-05 15:03:29 : okkez : Excel ã£ãŠãªãã§ããïŒ win32ole çšã®ã¢ããªã±ãŒã·ã§ã³ã§ããïŒ
- 2009-12-05 15:04:10 : Sixeight : äžçã§ãã£ãšãcoolãªè¡šèšç®ã¢ããªã±ãŒã·ã§ã³ã§ã
- 2009-12-05 15:04:30 : Sixeight : ãå埳ãã€ãã
- 2009-12-05 15:04:56 : okkez : COBOL ç¡çã
- 2009-12-05 15:05:38 : okkez : DB ã®å匷ã¯ããŠãããã»ãããããããããªãã
- 2009-12-05 15:06:31 : prototechno@äŒå Ž : ã³ã£ããŠãã¶ã?
- 2009-12-05 15:08:03 : okkez : ãXMLã¯å«ãã
- 2009-12-05 15:08:25 : agilekawabata@äŒå Ž : RT ãXMLã¯å«ãã
- 2009-12-05 15:08:25 : okkez : SQL ã£ãŠèªåã§ãã¡ãããšãèªã¿æžãã§ãã人ã¯å°ãªã
- 2009-12-05 15:08:44 : prototechno@äŒå Ž : å匷ãã
- 2009-12-05 15:09:06 : okkez : SQL ãš RDBMS ã®ç®¡çããã¹ã¿ãŒããã°ããã ãã§é£¯ãé£ãã
- 2009-12-05 15:09:54 : prototechno@äŒå Ž : Excelã§ãã£ãã»ããè·ã¯å€ããw
- 2009-12-05 15:10:28 : okkez : Excel ã¯ãã¡ãããšã䜿ããŠãããã ããã飯ã¯é£ããªããå¥ã®æèœãšçµã¿åãããå¿ èŠãããã
- 2009-12-05 15:10:49 : [email protected] : ãµããµã
- 2009-12-05 15:12:26 : [email protected] : ããã¯ããŒã ã®è¡šç€ºãå®å®ããªãã®ã¯ä»æ§?
- 2009-12-05 15:13:06 : agilekawabata@äŒå Ž : 確ãã«ãgmailã®ã¢ã«ãŠã³ãã§ãã°ã€ã³ããæãäžå®å®ã§ããã
- 2009-12-05 15:13:12 : prototechno@äŒå Ž : DBé£ãããã
- 2009-12-05 15:13:30 : okkez : DB ãã ããããã£ãŠãã€ããã®ãã£ããã£ãŠé£ããããšãèããšãããããããããæ¥åã®ããšã¯è©³ãããã©ã
- 2009-12-05 15:14:02 : prototechno@äŒå Ž : æ¥åã®ããšã¯è©³ããã»ã»ã»ãããäžçªéèŠãã
- 2009-12-05 15:14:54 : okkez : ç«ãŠæ¿ã«æ°Ž
- 2009-12-05 15:15:19 : prototechno@äŒå Ž : äŒè©±ãæç«ããªãã¬ãã«ãªã®ã...
- 2009-12-05 15:15:42 : okkez : ç«ãŠæ¿ã«æ°ŽéããŠçããŠãããŠããªã人ãããã
- 2009-12-05 15:16:28 : prototechno@äŒå Ž : åå¿è ãã㊠gem ãäœãã£ãŠãã®ãããããããªãç¶æ ã§ãã
- 2009-12-05 15:19:13 : prototechno@äŒå Ž : ããŒã¿ãŒããŒã¹æ¥ç¶äŸãå³ãèŠãããã§ãã
- 2009-12-05 15:21:56 : okkez : ã¹ãã ïŒ
- 2009-12-05 15:24:36 : stoyan : spam: http://twitpic.com/q6y28 ;)
- 2009-12-05 15:24:37 : okkez : firebird ãçãããª
- 2009-12-05 15:25:20 : okkez : Firebirdæ¥æ¬ãŠãŒã¶ãŒäŒ http://tech.firebird.gr.jp/firebird/index.php?firebird_xsite=0
- 2009-12-05 15:25:55 : okkez : Firebird - The RDBMS that's going where you're going http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php
- 2009-12-05 15:30:17 : agilekawabata@äŒå Ž : èªåã§ãããã
- 2009-12-05 15:31:09 : higaki@äŒå Ž : åºåé ãä¿èšŒããããšæã£ãã ORDER BY å¥ã䜿ããªããšãã
- 2009-12-05 15:39:42 : prototechno@äŒå Ž : MacPorts ã® ruby ãã€ã³ã¹ããŒã«äžïœ
- 2009-12-05 15:42:48 : okkez : çºèšå°ãªãã
- 2009-12-05 15:43:02 : okkez : twitter ã§çºèšããŠã人ããã£ã¡ã§çºèšããã°ããã®ã«
- 2009-12-05 15:43:28 : agilekawabata@äŒå Ž : 察象å€ã®äººãå€ãã£ãããïŒ
- 2009-12-05 15:44:59 : okkez : AR ã§ãããªã find_by_sql ãããã°ãã°ããã
- 2009-12-05 15:54:44 : Sixeight : twitterã®#rubykansai39çºèšããã¡ãã«æµã蟌ããã°è¯ãã®ã§ãã
- 2009-12-05 15:54:51 : prototechno@äŒå Ž : rubyã¯ãã£ããrun_termtter.rbãããŸãã§ããžã
- 2009-12-05 15:57:26 : ujm : ã©ããªãšã©ãŒã«ãªããŸã? >run_termtter
- 2009-12-05 15:58:48 : Sixeight : ãããŸã®ãµãŒããæ¥æ¬Rubyã®äŒã®ãµãŒãã«ç§»ããŸããïŒ
- 2009-12-05 15:59:32 : Sixeight : ãã£ã·ãããŒã©ïŒ
- 2009-12-05 15:59:36 : agilekawabata@äŒå Ž : ããžã€ã
- 2009-12-05 15:59:48 : mollifier@äŒå Ž : ã¯ãã¿hack
- 2009-12-05 15:59:50 : ohac@äŒå Ž : ããµã
- 2009-12-05 15:59:53 : ujm : ã©ãã£ã++
- 2009-12-05 15:59:59 : Tagawa@äŒå Ž : ããžã€ãã£ãŠãªã«ïŒãšæã£ãã
- 2009-12-05 16:00:36 : [email protected] : äžåºŠååãã®ã¬ãã¹ã³ããâª
- 2009-12-05 16:01:10 : cyross@äŒå Ž : Mããããªã©ãã
- 2009-12-05 16:02:16 : Sixeight : Rubyã®ã³ããã¿ç©ã
- 2009-12-05 16:02:21 : [email protected] : KOFããå§ããæ¬æ°ã®åå¿è ã§ããâª
- 2009-12-05 16:03:05 : Tagawa@äŒå Ž : é 匵ã£ãŠãã ãããã²ãšãã§ãå€ãã®äººãRubyã®äžçãç¥ã£ãŠããããããšæããŸãã
- 2009-12-05 16:03:58 : cyross@äŒå Ž : æ²ã®ãã¥ãŒããªã¢ã«ã¯ã¬ã
- 2009-12-05 16:04:17 : Sixeight : Rubyã§äœãPrologåŠçç³»www http://www.okisoft.co.jp/esc/prolog/in-ruby.html
- 2009-12-05 16:04:19 : raito@äŒå Ž : ãµããç·åŒµããŸãã
- 2009-12-05 16:04:26 : Sixeight : ãã€ããããŸã§ã
- 2009-12-05 16:04:44 : Tagawa@äŒå Ž : æ²ãœãããŠã§ã¢ã®ãµã€ãã¯Ruby以å€ã§ãéåžžã«è©³ãããŠãããããCygwinã§ãåèã«ããŸããã
- 2009-12-05 16:04:54 : cyross@äŒå Ž : http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/4873112923
- 2009-12-05 16:05:06 : cyross@äŒå Ž : ãåããŠã®ããã°ã©ãã³ã°ãæžç±çãžã®ãªã³ã¯
- 2009-12-05 16:05:18 : raito@äŒå Ž : ãã¡ããããç²ãæ§ã§ããã > Sixeightãã
- 2009-12-05 16:05:36 : Sixeight : rails.vim http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=1567
- 2009-12-05 16:05:44 : ujm : but vim is foerver
- 2009-12-05 16:05:54 : Sixeight : http://vim-users.jp/
- 2009-12-05 16:05:59 : ujm : "ããã§ãå°ç(ãã )ã¯åã£ãŠãã"
- 2009-12-05 16:06:02 : cyross@äŒå Ž : ã§ããããŒ>Eclipse
- 2009-12-05 16:06:33 : agilekawabata@äŒå Ž : Aptanaãããã
- 2009-12-05 16:06:45 : cyross@äŒå Ž : Aptanaãããããã
- 2009-12-05 16:06:48 : mollifier@äŒå Ž : ããã³ãŒã
- 2009-12-05 16:07:01 : cyross@äŒå Ž : ãããã6.8åºãã¯ã
- 2009-12-05 16:07:07 : ujm : sixeight
- 2009-12-05 16:07:10 : cyross@äŒå Ž : >ïœïœ ïœïŒ¢ïœ ïœïœïœ
- 2009-12-05 16:07:23 : Sixeight : http://ja.netbeans.org/nekobean/
- 2009-12-05 16:07:30 : cyross@äŒå Ž : EclipseãªãPleiadeså ¥ãããšæ¥æ¬èªå¯Ÿå¿ã«ãªãã®ã§ãèŠã
- 2009-12-05 16:07:43 : Tagawa@äŒå Ž : Eclipseã¯Subversionã䜿ããããã«ããã®ã«å°ãããã©ãã£ãã§ãã
- 2009-12-05 16:07:51 : cyross@äŒå Ž : éäžã§èœã¡ãã®ã§å°ã>RDE
- 2009-12-05 16:08:05 : fillmore12792 : emacs ã® rcodetools ããããã
- 2009-12-05 16:08:07 : ujm : Eclipseã®èµ·åæ¹æ³ :!eclipse %
- 2009-12-05 16:08:22 : cyross@äŒå Ž : Notepad++ã
- 2009-12-05 16:08:29 : agilekawabata@äŒå Ž : ãããokkey
- 2009-12-05 16:08:31 : ayu : æè¿ã®å¥³å倧çã¯Meadow 掟ãããã§ã
- 2009-12-05 16:08:32 : Sixeight : Vimãšãããããã§ã
- 2009-12-05 16:08:52 : ujm : Emacs or Meadow
- 2009-12-05 16:08:53 : ujm : Vim
- 2009-12-05 16:08:59 : ujm : Eclipse
- 2009-12-05 16:09:03 : mollifier@äŒå Ž : vim ãå°ãªã
- 2009-12-05 16:09:05 : [email protected] : Xcodeã§ãw
- 2009-12-05 16:09:06 : Sixeight : Vimãè² ããŸãã...
- 2009-12-05 16:09:07 : ujm : Vimå£å¢ (Vi掟ãå€ãã£ããã)
- 2009-12-05 16:09:27 : Sixeight : RT @ujm: Vimå£å¢ (Vi掟ãå€ãã£ããã)
- 2009-12-05 16:09:43 : ujm : RT @Sixeight: RT @ujm: Vimå£å¢ (Vi掟ãå€ãã£ããã)
- 2009-12-05 16:10:00 : raito@äŒå Ž : sjisç³»ã¯éªæªããã£ã±ãç¬èªCPxxxãããã
- 2009-12-05 16:10:01 : Sixeight : http://doc.okkez.net/
- 2009-12-05 16:10:03 : Tagawa@äŒå Ž : ãšãã£ã¿ã®è©±ã§çãäžãã(ãã£ã€ãããª)
- 2009-12-05 16:10:20 : ujm : > Termtterã§éçºããŠããŸã
- 2009-12-05 16:10:45 : Tagawa@äŒå Ž : 倿 ããª
- 2009-12-05 16:10:50 : raito@äŒå Ž : 宿æŠäºã¯å€è¡æŽŸã«æå±ããããšã§åé¿ããŠã
- 2009-12-05 16:10:52 : higaki@äŒå Ž : refe (refe2 ãããªããã€) ã£ãŠã¡ã³ããããŠãã®?
- 2009-12-05 16:10:57 : Sixeight : æä»£ã¯VER
- 2009-12-05 16:10:57 : cyross@äŒå Ž : Windows ïœïœïœãå¿ããŠã¯å°ã
- 2009-12-05 16:11:09 : ujm : ããããYiã«ç§»è¡ããŸãããã
- 2009-12-05 16:11:11 : cyross@äŒå Ž : chm=HTMLãHelp
- 2009-12-05 16:11:17 : ujm : 究極ã®éçºç°å¢ãšããå
- 2009-12-05 16:11:34 : cyross@äŒå Ž : ãããŸã«ããchmã¯ãªã³ã¯ãå¹ããªãã®ãé£ç¹OTL
- 2009-12-05 16:11:39 : mollifier@äŒå Ž : VER ã ãã
- 2009-12-05 16:11:58 : cyross@äŒå Ž : ããããããŸã Miyakoã®çãã¡ã³ã¬ã¹ããã¥ã¢ã«ã§ããŠãªããã ããªâŠ(ç¬ãèš)
- 2009-12-05 16:12:13 : ujm : Miyakoãšãã£ã¿
- 2009-12-05 16:12:20 : cyross@äŒå Ž : ruby-talkã®ãããã§ShurikenãæãOTL
- 2009-12-05 16:12:38 : cyross@äŒå Ž : WYSIWIGã«ãªâŠãããŠããã>Miyakoãšãã£ã¿
- 2009-12-05 16:12:57 : ujm : å人çã«ã¯[ruby-tak]ã賌èªããããšã¯ãšã¯ã¹ããªãŒã ã¹ããŒãã®äžçš®ãšæã£ãŠããã
- 2009-12-05 16:13:06 : ujm : talk*
- 2009-12-05 16:13:29 : Sixeight : http://twitter.com/yugui/ruby-committers
- 2009-12-05 16:14:06 : Sixeight : Takl About Kaigi
- 2009-12-05 16:14:13 : prototechno@äŒå Ž : ãµãããã
- 2009-12-05 16:14:16 : Sixeight : Takl
- 2009-12-05 16:14:37 : ujm : sapporo ruby kaigiã§ã¯gã話é¡ã«ãªã£ãŠãã
- 2009-12-05 16:14:41 : Sixeight : twitterã§ã¯ #sprk02 ããã£ãŠãã ãã > æå¹RubyäŒè°
- 2009-12-05 16:15:16 : Sixeight : åããŠã®RUby
- 2009-12-05 16:15:20 : raito@äŒå Ž : yuguiæ¬
- 2009-12-05 16:15:24 : cyross@äŒå Ž : ã¡ãwww å¥åŠãªããã°ã©ãã³ã°èšèªãåçŽè åãwww
- 2009-12-05 16:15:33 : Tagawa@äŒå Ž : Rubyã§äœãå¥åŠãªããã°ã©ãã³ã°èšèªãåå¿è åãïŒ
- 2009-12-05 16:17:25 : Sixeight : ã©ã£ã¡ãçµå±èªãã§ãŸãã...
- 2009-12-05 16:17:36 : ujm : Ruby in Practiceãªã¹ã¹ã¡ã§ã
- 2009-12-05 16:17:39 : Tagawa@äŒå Ž : Ruby on Windowsçµ¶çãªã®ïŒã·ã§ãã¯ïŒ
- 2009-12-05 16:17:41 : ujm : #ripr
- 2009-12-05 16:18:39 : Sixeight : ã¢ãžã£ã€ã«ãã©ã¯ãã£ã¹
- 2009-12-05 16:18:43 : higaki@äŒå Ž : 〠http://stack.nayutaya.jp/tag/ruby
- 2009-12-05 16:19:17 : Sixeight : http://stack.nayutaya.jp/
- 2009-12-05 16:19:19 : Sixeight : !
- 2009-12-05 16:19:32 : mollifier@äŒå Ž : stack stock books è¯ãã
- 2009-12-05 16:19:37 : agilekawabata@äŒå Ž : ã¢ãžã£ã€ã«ãhttp://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/4274066940
- 2009-12-05 16:19:38 : ohac@äŒå Ž : ãžããŒ
- 2009-12-05 16:19:45 : Sixeight : http://stack.nayutaya.jp/user/okkez/tag/ruby
- 2009-12-05 16:20:37 : Sixeight : æžåœ±ã... http://stack.nayutaya.jp/book/4274067858 > yuyaãã
- 2009-12-05 16:21:29 : agilekawabata@äŒå Ž : Railsãªãããã ãã http://stack.nayutaya.jp/book/4274066401
- 2009-12-05 16:21:36 : Sixeight : ãã¬ããã¶ã
- 2009-12-05 16:22:22 : cyross@äŒå Ž : (ãŒãã£) http://stack.nayutaya.jp/book/4839932115
- 2009-12-05 16:22:27 : Sixeight : 第äžçåºãŸããã!
- 2009-12-05 16:23:29 : Tagawa@äŒå Ž : gemã«ãªã£ãŠããã©ã€ãã©ãªãšãªã£ãŠããªãã©ã€ãã©ãªã®æ¯çã£ãŠã©ããããã ããïŒ
- 2009-12-05 16:23:50 : Sixeight : ã¡ãŒãªã³ã°ãªã¹ãã«æçš¿ããã€ããã§æç« ãæžãããšã«ãã£ãŠèªåã§çããèŠã€ãã
- 2009-12-05 16:24:05 : agilekawabata@äŒå Ž : 第3çããã£ã¡ã ããhttp://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/4274067858
- 2009-12-05 16:24:06 : cyross@äŒå Ž : ããŸã«âŠ
- 2009-12-05 16:24:37 : Sixeight : twitterã§ãŒãã£ãšã€ã¶ãããšããŸã«ãã€ã¹ãªRubyistãäººãæŸã£ãŠãããŸã
- 2009-12-05 16:24:37 : Tagawa@äŒå Ž : æçš¿ããã€ããã§æç« ãæžãã»ã»éåžžã«è¯ãã¡ãœããããã
- 2009-12-05 16:24:41 : cyross@äŒå Ž : ããã°ã§ã
- 2009-12-05 16:25:32 : agilekawabata@äŒå Ž : çºè¡šé§åå匷
- 2009-12-05 16:26:13 : Sixeight : ã²ã©ãçºè¡šã§ãæããç®ã§èŠãŠããã ããRubyé¢è¥¿ã¯ãã°ãããã³ãã¥ããã£ã§ã
- 2009-12-05 16:27:31 : Sixeight : http://doc.okkez.net/
- 2009-12-05 16:28:32 : Sixeight : Macåãã®Chmãã¥ãŒã¯ã£ãŠäœãè¯ããã§ããããïŒ
- 2009-12-05 16:28:41 : cyross@äŒå Ž : ãªã³ã¯å ããchmã£ãŠããŒãžå ããã®ãªã³ã¯åããŠãªã?
- 2009-12-05 16:31:57 : agilekawabata@äŒå Ž : Mac ãªã ichmãããæãã§ã
- 2009-12-05 16:31:59 : agilekawabata@äŒå Ž : http://code.google.com/p/ichm/
- 2009-12-05 16:35:19 : Sixeight : ããããšãããããŸã > ããã°ããã
- 2009-12-05 16:35:55 : Sixeight : http://q.okkez.net/answers/22
- 2009-12-05 16:36:00 : Sixeight : ã¢ã³ã±ãŒããé¡ãããŸãïŒ
- 2009-12-05 16:36:11 : ohac@äŒå Ž : chmã£ãŠãwindowsã®ãã«ããã¡ã€ã«?
- 2009-12-05 16:37:52 : agilekawabata@äŒå Ž : Linuxçšã®chmãã¥ãŒã¢ã¯ããããªãhttp://code.google.com/p/ichm/
- 2009-12-05 16:38:10 : agilekawabata@äŒå Ž : ã¡ããããããhttp://sourceforge.jp/projects/sfnet_chmview/
- 2009-12-05 16:38:21 : cleveland39062 : ãè ¹ç©ºããã»ã»ã»
- 2009-12-05 16:38:52 : ohac@äŒå Ž : chmseeãšããã®ãå ¥ããŠã¿ã
- 2009-12-05 16:42:15 : prototechno@äŒå Ž : Macã§chm èªãã®ã¯?
- 2009-12-05 16:42:19 : ohac@äŒå Ž : chmviewã¯KDEãªãã§ãã
- 2009-12-05 16:42:36 : ohac@äŒå Ž : ãããéãããª
- 2009-12-05 16:42:50 : no6v : It's too late to come back again.
- 2009-12-05 16:42:53 : prototechno@äŒå Ž : server.rb ã¯åãããŠã¿ãã
- 2009-12-05 16:46:00 : ohac@äŒå Ž : http://localhost:10080/ ãèŠãŠã¿ã
- 2009-12-05 16:47:15 : arthur58882 : http://www.ruby-doc.org/docs/ProgrammingRuby/
- 2009-12-05 16:48:00 : Sixeight : ãã£ãšããŒã«ã«ã§ãããŸèŠãã
- 2009-12-05 16:49:38 : okkez : gnochm
- 2009-12-05 16:49:46 : okkez : kchmviewer
- 2009-12-05 16:49:49 : arthur58882 : æ°ä¹ ããããã®ã
- 2009-12-05 16:49:54 : okkez : xchm
- 2009-12-05 16:50:20 : okkez : chmsee
- 2009-12-05 16:50:39 : okkez : ãã®èŸºã Debian ã«å ¥ã£ãŠãã chm viewer
- 2009-12-05 16:50:54 : okkez : ujihisa ã¯ãã³ã¯ãŒããŒãªãã®ã¯ãã
- 2009-12-05 16:51:02 : ujm : hi
- 2009-12-05 16:51:41 : okkez : /nick yourname
- 2009-12-05 16:51:47 : okkez : please
- 2009-12-05 16:58:49 : ããªã¿@äŒå Ž : æ¥æ¬äººã®ããã°ã©ããŒã¯ãã£ãšè±èªã«åŒ·ããªãããšãããã§ãã
- 2009-12-05 16:59:09 : ujm : ãã®ã»ãããªã«ããšåŸããŸãã
- 2009-12-05 16:59:17 : ããªã¿@äŒå Ž : æ¥æ¬èªã§ããã¥ã¡ã³ãèªãããã Ruby ãããïŒããšãåãã§ãã£ãŠã¯ãããã§ã
- 2009-12-05 16:59:49 : ujm : ä»å¹Žã¯ãã
- 2009-12-05 17:00:02 : ããªã¿@äŒå Ž : åŠçã®ãœãŒã¹ãèŠãŠãããšïŒå€æ°ãã¡ãœããåãããŒãåã ã£ããããããšãå€ã
- 2009-12-05 17:00:06 : ujm : ujihisaã¯æ¥æ¬èªãšããæå·ãè§£èªã§ãããã䟿å©ã ãçãªããžã·ã§ã³ã«ããŸãã
- 2009-12-05 17:00:47 : okkez : ãæ¥æ¬èªãšããæå·ã
- 2009-12-05 17:00:50 : ããªã¿@äŒå Ž : Rails ãè€æ°åœ¢ãç¥ããªããšã ;;;
- 2009-12-05 17:00:53 : ujm : ããŒãå倿°ã»ã»ã»
- 2009-12-05 17:00:53 : okkez : 俺ãè§£èªã§ããïŒ
- 2009-12-05 17:01:07 : ujm : æ¥æ¬èªã¯æå·ã®äžçš®
- 2009-12-05 17:01:22 : no6v : è±èªã®æ¹ãæ¥œãªæããããçšåºŠã§ããäœãïŒ
- 2009-12-05 17:01:23 : okkez : è§£èªããŠç¬èªã®å éšè¡šçŸã§ä¿åãã
- 2009-12-05 17:01:46 : ããªã¿@äŒå Ž : ããã£ãŠïŒç¬¬äºæ¬¡å€§æŠäžã«ã¢ã¡ãªã«ããããæãæå·éšéã«èµ·çšãããããªããã§ããïŒujihisa
- 2009-12-05 17:01:47 : okkez : èªåã詳ãããªãåéã®è±èªã¯èŸãçšåºŠã§ã
- 2009-12-05 17:02:01 : ujm : ã¡ãªã¿ã«ã¢ã¡ãªã«äººã®åŠçã課é¡ã§æžããœãŒã¹ã³ãŒãã®å€æ°åããã£ããã²ã©ãã¿ããã§ã
- 2009-12-05 17:02:07 : ujm : fkãšãstãšã
- 2009-12-05 17:02:54 : ujm : sixeightããã
- 2009-12-05 17:02:59 : ujm : ã«ã¡ã©ããã¡ãã«ãããŠãã!
- 2009-12-05 17:03:26 : Sixeight : ããã²ããããåã£ãïŒ
- 2009-12-05 17:04:58 : ujm : ããããåèªèº«ã¯
- 2009-12-05 17:05:01 : ujm : åŠéšçã®ãšãã«
- 2009-12-05 17:05:12 : ujm : æ¥ä»ã«dataãšãã倿°åãšãã€ããŠãŸãã
- 2009-12-05 17:05:28 : prototechno@äŒå Ž : http://localhost:10080/ããèŠãã®ã¯å§ãã«ãã£ãŠã¿ãããããããæ¹æ³ãªãã®?
- 2009-12-05 17:06:01 : no6v : æ¥ä»ãããªããŠãdataãšãinfoãšãã¯å€ããªããæ§é ããŸã£ããèŠããªã
- 2009-12-05 17:06:24 : ujm : infoããã§ãããææ§ã§äŸ¿å©ã§ã
- 2009-12-05 17:06:45 : ujm : write onlyãªã³ãŒããéç£ã§ããŸã
- 2009-12-05 17:07:03 : Tagawa@äŒå Ž : ãã®ãšãã¯ããããååãæµ®ãã°ãªããã ããªãåŸã§orzãšæãã®ã ãã©ã
- 2009-12-05 17:07:47 : no6v : ãããªãã»ããšfooãšãbarã«ããŠãããŠã»ããã
- 2009-12-05 17:08:18 : ããªã¿@äŒå Ž : ãšãããã goo èŸæžåŒãïŒããŒãå倿°ååŠç
- 2009-12-05 17:08:30 : Tagawa@äŒå Ž : ããã»ã»äžéå端ã«ååãèãããããŸããã®ã§ããã
- 2009-12-05 17:09:18 : no6v : infoã ãšããããçŽãããšæããªããã©ã次åãã³ãŒããèªãã§ãŸãããã§æ¢ãŸãã®ããã
- 2009-12-05 17:09:41 : ããªã¿@äŒå Ž : Ruby ã®C ãœãŒã¹ãèªããšããã®ã¯çµæ§å匷ã«ãªããã
- 2009-12-05 17:10:08 : ããªã¿@äŒå Ž : ããïŒãœãŒã¹ãã®ãã®ã¯ããŸãèªãŸãªããã§ããïŒã³ã¡ã³ãã
- 2009-12-05 17:10:24 : Tagawa@äŒå Ž : 確ãã«æåããfoo barã ã£ãããšããããã®ååã ãšããããŸããã
- 2009-12-05 17:10:39 : [email protected] : 1.8 ãš 1.9 åæã«èªã¿ãããã ãã©...
- 2009-12-05 17:10:40 : Sixeight : ã«ã¡ã©ã«ããŒãçãªãã³ãšãããããšã«ä»æ°ã¥ããŸãã
- 2009-12-05 17:11:29 : ããªã¿@äŒå Ž : ãœããçãªãã³ãã£ãŠäœïŒ
- 2009-12-05 17:12:04 : ããªã¿@äŒå Ž : ã«ã¡ã©ã®çŠç¹ã¯ 1/a + 1/b = 1/f ã§æ±ºãŸãã§ããã
- 2009-12-05 17:13:42 : ujm : ãã®ãŠã
- 2009-12-05 17:13:54 : ujm : ã©ã€ãã©ãªã®ååã®ä»ãæ¹
- 2009-12-05 17:13:55 : ujm : g
- 2009-12-05 17:14:04 : ujm : ã¯äžççã«ãããã§ãã
- 2009-12-05 17:14:17 : no6v : g
- 2009-12-05 17:14:47 : Tagawa@äŒå Ž : åãæ¢ãã1.8ã1.9ã®ãªãã¡ã¬ã³ã¹ããã¥ã¢ã«ãããŠã³ããŒãããŠåŸããéãã調ã¹ãæ¹ãè¯ããšæããŸãã>prototechnoãã
- 2009-12-05 17:15:25 : ujm : tdiaryã®compatible.rbãèŠããšãããã
- 2009-12-05 17:16:21 : ohac@äŒå Ž : nã¯jirbããæ®éã«äœ¿ãã
- 2009-12-05 17:16:34 : ujm : http://coderepos.org/share/browser/platform/tdiary/util/tdiary-for-ruby1.9/compatible.rb?rev=35980
- 2009-12-05 17:17:33 : Sixeight : http://q.okkez.net/answers/22
- 2009-12-05 17:17:58 : Tagawa@äŒå Ž : ãããtdiaryã®compatible.rbè¯ãã§ããããããªã1.9ãš1.8ã®éããè¯ããããããã
- 2009-12-05 17:18:45 : prototechno@äŒå Ž : ããŠã³ããŒãããŠãããåæã«èªãã«ã¯...ç¡ç?
- 2009-12-05 17:18:45 : Sixeight : å®ç©ã¯ãã³ãå¶åŸ¡ã§ããªãã®ã§ããŒããŠããªãã³ããšèšã£ãŠããŸããŸãããïŒãããªã¿å ç
- 2009-12-05 17:19:07 : Sixeight : http://q.okkez.net/subjects/22
- 2009-12-05 17:19:49 : ããªã¿@äŒå Ž : ãã³ãã©ãŒã«ã¹ãªãã§ããïŒå®ç©
- 2009-12-05 17:21:57 : ujm : åç¥ã¿ã€ã
- 2009-12-05 17:22:13 : ujm : LiveCoding#8
- 2009-12-05 17:23:34 : cyross@äŒå Ž : 次Nokogiriãããããª(ã²ã€)
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