2025‐04‐02 Minutes - openid/death-and-the-digital-estate GitHub Wiki

  • Attendees
    • Dean H. Saxe (Beyond Identity)
    • Jo Spencer (Sezoo)
    • Miki Brotzler (NAB/IDPro)
    • Tim L
    • Mike Kiser (SailPoint)
    • Linden Dawson
    • Victor Lu
    • Dima Postnikov

2025-04-02 Agenda

  • Welcome and antitrust policy reminder

  • Note taker: Tim

  • Agenda bashing

  • Updates from Dean

  • Dean spoke w Thanatologist colleague (Michelle D.)
    • Others consider discovering and reaching out to similar domain expertise
  • Background work continues on OPEN IF foundation board mtg - will be present, in-person
    • Please connect there is attending
  • Will speak w Lawyer this week - hoping will take an interest in DADE
  • Mike K - colleague is a chaplain - may be available to participate in panel
  • Miki B is a a civil celebrant (sp?)
  • Link below to proposal that Dean has started
    • Current SOTA - major digital platform vendors
    • Specialized service providers in DADE specific svcs
    • Differential cultural ethos and traditions around these events
    • Also lookign to connect with real world experiences that can speak to cultural
    • Miki B - Death Festival - first global event, Nov. 2nd, Day of the Dead.(Sydney?) (https://deathfest.sydney/new-products-1/p/3eqore1gptq2qepiq2eikmhhjl3k7k-d2a9p )
    • Aligning release of paper w Cybersecurity Month, Athuenticate, other timely events
    • Heather F and Dean co-authors but accepting contributions from others
  • Austrailia Working sub-group updates
    • Inspired by closing Identiverse panel of last year kicked-off local group (A...)
    • Identified challenge in Australia and some local context and issues to address
    • Pls advise/discuss how these local insights can be reflected in the DADE assets/material
    • Recently experienced practical case - bank customer correcting erroneous death status
      • in the course of merging banks
      • Develop case study from this?
    • DigitalID Bill last Sept, other new regs/ policy developments - impacing data retention
      • Kinds of records, time-frames, family rights/access...
  • Mike K - encourage many such local sub-groups to emerge and engage in support of DADE
    • Identify and address entirely new and different aspects
    • Other Asia-region parties expressing interest?
      • Japan - yes (Dean contacts)
      • Victor - yes
    • Hopeful for continuing geographic / regional representation in DADE
    • Scams, fraud - significant concern - inspiring engagement among banks / Financial svcs
    • Sovrin Guardianship WG participation addressed related issues, also drivers lic. WG
    • National Death Notification Service exists - much opportunity for improvement
    • Innovation / "Death Tech" startups, etc. presently on rise
      • Let's collect examples of these
      • Banks will face difficulty with proliferation of disparate such channels/services
    • Can we gain perspectives of Indigenous communities in Australia?
      • Observed may be a higher sensitivity to images depicting/addressing death
      • Clinical language may be suitable at times - learning sensitivity to dictinctions
  • Collecting real-world incidents relevant to DADE scope / issues, as appear in news, etc.
  • IIW in California next week - several DADE participants in attendance
    • George F. proposes IIW sessions related to DADE matters
    • This event may be an opportunity to progress from Comm. WG toward standards/prototyping
    • Reach out to Jo S. [left call] to speak to other IIW particpation opps.
  • Thanatologist contact offers consulting services and authored a book, podcast..
    • [Book Link]
  • recent article by principal of https:www.eternal.me - commercial planning service
    • [Link]
    • Dean will be speaking with her soon
    • Data custodian for many online platforms/services (bsky, Dropbox, Netflix, Reddit..)
      • Concerned that this may entail anti-patterns
      • May act as digitally-enabled executor - rather than automated/API
    • Nat'l Law Review article - valuing the average digital assets of Americans (USD 178k)
      • Survey biased to High-net worth population (?)
      • Interested to learn of other such Digital Assets Valuation figures
    • Movie produced by... ? addressing relevant issues
    • George F. some LinkedIn posts recently - Kantara Initiative, OPENID-KYC Authority Claim
  • Defer continued Use Case development to next call
  • Tim L will reiterate invite to Tim R. to participate in Identiverse panel