2025‐02‐05 Minutes - openid/death-and-the-digital-estate GitHub Wiki

  • Attendees

    • Dean H. Saxe (Beyond Identity)
    • Victor Lu (Independent)
    • Eve Maler (Venn Factory)
    • Tim Lloyd ("Other Tim"!)
    • Mike Kiser (SailPoint)

  • Welcome and antitrust policy reminder

  • Note taker: Eve

  • Agenda bashing

  • Creating Use Cases

    • Find stories in the news or from personal experience and capture them in use cases
      • Domain name ownership & transfer
        • Interesting experiences with less broadly used TLDs and domain registrar interactions
        • For a legacy contact, need to assign domain to a legal entity like a trust
        • Households using shared calendars etc. could be impacted by the fragility of the registration
        • Photos of identity docs came into play
      • Others...

  • Open Issues

    • Create educational materials ahead of Cyber Security Awareness Month 2025

      • Dean wrote a proposal, if there is no feedback he will sync with Gail on next steps.
        • October is both this event and the Authenticate conference -- and IIW
        • Proposal is to prepare a whitepaper and also guidance for dealing with popular websites and use cases
        • Consider taking a layered approach: guidance targeted to individuals, solution providers, etc. -- could depend on cycles available
        • Tim in chat: "I agree / support Victor's earlier suggestion about constructively expanding the perspectives considered for proposed paper/analysis - "bigger picture" (vis a vis DADE) + variety of cultures and contexts and different relationships to the subject-matter"
          • Cultural context presents interesting challenges here

    • Create a short questionnaire regarding the legal/regulatory landscape

      • Pending information from members of the legal / political community
      • On our last call it was suggested that we use the recent Executive Order on cryptocurrency from POTUS as a hook to engage US politicians on this issue.
        • Currently no well-defined mechanisms for handling such assets when someone passes away

    • DADE Wiki - We have a GitHub wiki that needs to be refactored, looking for volunteers.

      • Create pages for resources
      • Organize use cases currently captured in issues
      • Navigation

    • Document known mechanisms for legacy contacts on large providers - Dean has added a template and a handful of providers. DADE members are encouraged to document their own experiences.

      • Please add additional services as pull requests. Having this information will help the CG deliver educational materials. If you have trouble with making a PR, please reach out to the cochairs for help.

    • Implications of personhood tokens and DADE

  • 2025 Conferences & DADE

    • IIW (Dean Saxe will attend and call a session)
      • Whitepaper help and legacy guidance especially welcome for IIW XL
    • Identiverse CFP (Panel accepted! We're looking for a lawyer to join us as a panelist.)
      • "Other Tim" will mention this opportunity to Tim Reiniger, with whom he works on the Kantara ANCR WG
    • EIC (Completed by Eve Maler)
    • Authenticate 2025 (CFP opened this week through March 3, Dean will submit a panel session including Mike K)

  • Any Other Business

    • EU Cyber Resilience Act (CRA) -- requires supply chain partners to be verified
      • If a "leftover" account gets taken over by someone new, what happens?
      • Transfer of responsibilities and privileges is the general case, e.g. someone leaving a company
      • NIS2 implications?
    • Mark H and Eve are meeting next week for "DADE book club" and will report back
      • Mark's eKYC expertise will surely be relevant