Meeting Notes 2026‐08 13 - openid/authzen GitHub Wiki
Meeting Notes - 2026-08-13
Attendees
- Alex Olivier
- Omri
- Dave Hyland
- Karl
- Roland
- Vladi
- John Jiang
- Michiel Trimpe
- Edmund
Agenda
- Draft updates
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Omri
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Karl
- AROP
- ARAP
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COAZ
- Draft needs updating to latest MCP spec
- Ref implementation https://github.com/alexolivier/authzen-coaz
- Path to implementors draft
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- WG Draft Process
- Certification
Notes
AuthZEN Profiles (Omri)
- Dec 2025 interop took first step with IdP using AuthZEN during token issuance
- Leading IdPs have a way to hook in
- Karl: Useful to split up workforce and customer identity systems. Workforce extensiblity is a risk. Customer side is designed to be programmatic.
- Need to acknowledge that developers think in tokens
- IETF drafts, but may not stay there as nothing changes in the OAuth spec - its about how an OAuth AS used OAuth.
- Split up into 3 drafts, issuance, exchange and claims
- Karl: This looks like the COAZ layer for OAuth? AlexO: COAZ-OAuth binding?
- Its a mapping from the OAuth information model and the AuthZEN model.
- John: Where do the actions come from in the example?
- These are scopes. The canonical mapping defines it.
- Roland: I like the general approach, mixing token type and scopes in the evaluations could be tricky?
- Landed there to keep the decision critical feilds in the SAR and not fill context.
- Past RAR binding for AuthZEN wasn't the right model
- Karl: Make sure the OAuth hooks are in place and then have the AuthZEN bindings
- Dave: One exception is the OIDF grant management API - agents can start asking for entitlements.
- Karl: ID-JAG will drive the need for this to exist.
- Omri: Does the WG want to bring these drafts in (consenus on call is yes)
ARAP/AROP
- Going to restructure the docs a bit so need to land the open PR Link
COAZ
- Need
AOB
- Karl: Need to sure up the mechanism for extensiblity of obligations. Sent strawman to the mailing list. Formalizing the mechanism between the PDP/PEP. Link
- Omri: Started developing the terminology - 1.0 is core, then there are things which are bigger than profiles. But some are things which are extensions.
- Need to find a home for - Formalized extensibility model for AuthZEN - next meeting agenda