Threat Values - magey/tbc-warrior GitHub Wiki
For information on some basic wow classic threat mechanics, see the Classic Warrior wiki page here.
This page is specific to Burning Crusade Classic (BCC) Warrior Threat Mechanics.
Threat Values
Spell threat values testing available here. Values were tested on bcc beta patch version 2.5.1.38169 for level 60 testing and 2.5.1.38285 for level 70 testing with threat API macro /run local _,_,_,_,t=UnitDetailedThreatSituation("player","target") if t then DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(t) else DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("No threat") end
to dump between abilities.
Several abilities have threat multipliers ('Multiplier' below) on the damage they do in addition to additive (sometimes called 'Innate Threat' in other sources, 'Threat' below) bonus threat. Abilities whose threat mechanics were changed or are new in BCC compared to Classic are Devastate (new), Revenge (changed), and Thunder Clap (changed).
Spell | Rank | Threat | Multiplier |
---|---|---|---|
Devastate | 3 | 100+301.5* | |
Devastate | 2 | 100+261** | |
Devastate | 1 | 100+261** | |
Shield Slam | 6 | 305 | |
Shield Slam | 5 | 278 | |
Shield Slam | 4 | 254 | |
Revenge | 8 | 200 | |
Revenge | 6 | 175 | |
Heroic Strike | 10 | 194 | |
Heroic Strike | 9 | 173 | |
Thunder Clap | 7 | 0 | 1.75 |
Thunder Clap | 6 | 0 | 1.75 |
Cleave | 6 | 125 | |
Cleave | 5 | 100 | |
Shield Bash | 4 | 192 | 1.50 |
Shield Bash | 3 | 156 | 1.50 |
Battle Shout | 8 | 69 | |
Battle Shout | 7 | 60 | |
Demoralizing Shout | 7 | 56 | |
Demoralizing Shout | 5 | 43.2 | |
Commanding Shout | 1 | 68 | |
Sunder Armor | 6 | 301.5 | |
Sunder Armor | 5 | 261 | |
Disarm | 99 | ||
Execute | 7 | 0 | 1.25 |
Execute | 5 | 0 | 1.25 |
Whirlwind | 0 | 1.25 | |
Hamstring | 4 | 167.5 | 1.25 |
Hamstring | 3 | 135 | 1.25 |
Overpower | 4 | 0 | 0.75 |
Mocking Blow | 6 | 0 | 3.00 |
Mocking Blow | 5 | 0 | 3.00 |
*Assumes highest rank of Sunder Armor known is Rank 6
**Assumes highest rank of Sunder Armor known is Rank 5
Devastate
Devastate is the new 41-point talent in the Protection tree in The Burning Crusade. It deals a portion of weapon damage (50%) as an instant attack, does 100 bonus threat, and casts the highest rank of Sunder Armor you know. Devastate also deals slightly more damage (+35 @ Rank 3) for each stack of sunder armor on the target.
- So long as the target is still building Sunder Armor stacks, the Sunder Armor cast also applies its threat as usual. In testing, this was either rank 5 Sunder Armor for +261 threat or rank 6 Sunder Armor for +301.5 threat each cast of Devastate.
- Weapons that can proc on-hit effects have two chances to proc on each cast of Devastate.
- If the target already has Five sunder armor stacks, casting Devastate will refresh the duration of Sunder Armor but will not cause Sunder Armor threat.
- If the target is under the effect of Improved Expose Armor (expose armor effect > sunder armor effect), Devastate can still be cast. It will deal damage and do its bonus threat (+100), but will not cast Sunder Armor nor do any Sunder Armor threat.
At level 70, casting rank 3 Devastate into a target that has between zero and four Sunder Armor stacks will deal its damage plus (100+301.5=) 401.5 threat.
Thunder Clap
- Thunder Clap can now be used in Defensive Stance in addition to Battle Stance.
- Its threat multiplier was reduced from 2.25x to 1.75x.
- Improved Thunder Clap (+100% damage) does not stack with the Tier 2.5 5-piece set bonus (+50% damage)
Revenge
- Revenge has had its damage increased significantly (e.g. R6 Classic: 81 to 99 vs R6 BCC: 343 to 418)
- Revenge no longer has a threat multiplier
- Revenge has had its bonus threat reduced
- Improved Revenge stun proc causes +20 bonus threat (no bonus threat when immune to stun)
Tactical Mastery
Tactical Mastery was changed in TBC to "greatly increase" the threat generated by Bloodthirst and Mortal Strike. It gives their damage a threat multiplier while in Defensive Stance.
- Tactical Mastery gives a +63% multiplier to damage done by Bloodthirst and Mortal Strike in Defensive Stance (1.63x) at 3/3, or 21% more threat per point.
Improved Berserker Stance
Improved Berserker Stance is the new 36-point talent in the fury tree. At 5/5, it "reduces threat caused by 10% while in Berserker Stance". This reduction is additive to the stance multiplier.
- Improved Berserker Stance at 5/5 makes your Berserker Stance multiplier 0.7x (down from 0.8x normally).
Thunderfury
The proc from Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker was similarly tested @ level 61 on bcc beta patch version 2.5.1.38169 as above. Thunderfury's proc has been significantly nerfed from WoW Classic. There are three components to the proc:
- 300 single-target nature damage (270 in Defensive Stance). In BCC, this damage has a 0.5x threat multiplier. (This was a 1.0x multiplier in Classic)
- Single-target attack speed slow causes 0 additional threat to the main target. (This caused 126 threat in Classic)
- AoE nature resistance reduction debuff causes 63 additional threat to each target in range (up to four targets). (This caused 126 threat in Classic)
All components are affected by stance and other multipliers and total ((300x0.5)+0+63=) 213 threat before stance modifiers. This is a significant nerf from Classic where this total was ((300x1.0)+126+126=) 552 threat before modifiers, an approximately 60% nerf to the proc threat of Thunderfury in BCC.