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Episode 4: Intuition versus Rationality or why Language Models make Bad Philosophers
Part 4 in a series of interviews on the book I'm working on, Neither/Nor. In this episode, Isabela Granic and I explore whether AI language models can ever be helpful for developing a useful philosophy for our current times. We explore the myriad ways human thought differs from the processes and outputs of language models. The philosopher, Arthur Schopenhauer, figures centrally throughout our discussion, as we apply his insights about intuition versus rationality. I'm particularly compelled by how Shopenhauer writes about perception, which is immediate and the basis of intuition, versus rationality, which is encapsulated in language, sequential, and unfolds in time. We end with considering the dangers inherent in language, which reifies our concepts and keeps us separate from our lived experience.
Links we discussed:
- Previous podcast episode with Maggie: The AI and Dark Forest, with Maggie Appleton
- My article: "Dependent Origination without any Pali"
- Part 3 of this series: https://podfollow.com/1566773049/episode/974a8d0632abb54e13fde4d3623ceb38ea4700d2/view
- Bryan McGee on whether you can be a good writer and a bad philosopher: https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/magazine/bryan-magee-profundity-obscurity-bad-writing
- Viktor Shklovsky's concept of "Defamiliarization": https://literariness.org/2016/03/17/defamiliarization/
- Our earlier episode: Experimental and Historical Sciences: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/bkam/episodes/History-versus-Physics--with-Isabela-Granic-and-Sam-Biagetti-e1unn5l
- The Disputers of the Tao (A.C. Graham): https://www.jstor.org/stable/2186091
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Notes if you want to edit:
- I have a bunch of ums and uhs when I'm particularly struggling to understand or cohere / summarize what I am understanding. Sections that are particularly troublesome which you could delete entirely without missing any real meaning in the episode:
- 11:17 - 13:00
- 16:44 - 16:58
- 47:35 - 48:25
- there's loud noise in the background, I think it's traffic on my side; particularly loud around 50:28 for about 5 min