2019 01 11 Task 3 Network modelling subgroup meeting - ibpsa/project1 GitHub Wiki

Network modelling subgroup meeting

Date: 11 Jan 2019, 17-18pm (CET)

Attending: Remi Patureau, Enora Garreau, Felix Bünning, Michael Mans, Bram van der Heijde (notes)

Minutes

DESTEST Paper (Building Simulations Conference)

  • Contribution to DESTEST paper written by Felix and Michael (correct?) sent to Dirk for review before Christmas break

Comparison of different pipe models.

  • Contributions from Alessandro, Enora, Felix and Michael
  • There is a difference in the insulation parameter (Dimosim is correct, other models have too high insulation values).
    • This will be changed after paper submission due to lack of time right now.
  • Solver aspects: 3 different simulations with cvode, dassl and euler (1s).
    • Big deviations after summer non-heating period
    • Differences etween all solvers, but dassl deviations are the largest
    • Due to error in table handling (timetable is problem): integrator block behind table to fix time variables?
    • Euler gives best result, but takes very long to simulate (2h versus few minutes). This is not fast enough for the envisioned purpose.
    • How to solve?
      • Make issue in MSL repository? Issue is known, but core developers disagree on how it should be solved
      • Ask Michael and/or Filip?
      • Is it a problem inherent to pipe or do all pipes have this error?
      • We should try to simulate a smaller case that is easier for debugging
      • Michael will open new issue inside IBPSA project first
  • Next steps?
    • Cooling demand
    • Pipe network structures
    • Different flow temperatures, varying flow temperature, different control strategies
    • But first make sure everything is running properly
  • Aim of comparison exercise: comparing/benchmarking different

TO DO

  • Michael: make new issue in IBPSA Project 1 repo to discuss solver differences
  • Bram: set up doodle for another coordination meeting before end of January?