Mar 17, 2025 ‐ 16:00 UTC - elisa-tech/wg-systems GitHub Wiki

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Previous meeting notes: https://github.com/elisa-tech/wg-systems/wiki/Feb-24,-2025-%E2%80%90-16:00-UTC
AI-Sebastian: Involvement of DIN can also be interesting. Sebastian will take a first contact.
- Communication started. Another meeting scheduled in Feb.
AI-Philipp: Add architecture picture to Systems-WG repo for better clarity.

2nd deep dive performed. Interest in the topic overall, but not to have immediate action.
Next sync in fall 2025 to see where the automated train project proceeded with it.
In case of sufficient interest and driving it (e.g. with BASIL) than picking up earlier is always possible.

Working group proposal: https://docs.google.com/document/d/12YAObVbfqeNXOSREpNmHvZDqUiqXBypAgnMP3j37VVE
Good progress in preparation of proposal.
Pending MGMT approval from potential participants.
Next meeting proposal: Tuesday 2:00 PM on May 6th is seen as best date to meet again.
AI-Philipp: Create invitation for the next Railways WG meeting May 6th 2:00 PM CEST
What drives the working group topics?
- Overall strategy from the governing board
- Major topics for cross collaboration (and reporting of topics) in TSC
- Workshops create many topics.
- Working groups come up with topics of interest and members of group define what they work on.
- Blog https://elisa.tech/blog/2025/03/05/elisa-project-achievements-updates/ shows 2025 goal
- Slides: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cmnZc8C824faVoMHv7MVT77PZm455a8C

During Embedded World AGL presented a SDV architectural proposal utilizing AGL IC + IVI with Xen and Zephyr
Idea from AGL might be to bring this on top of Renesas hardware and ARM Graviton image (AGL is not 100% set there)
Idea for ELISA Systems WG: take yocto full image to create a (qemu) image with meta-zepyhr and meta-virtualization.
Could be based on AGL or a plain yocto. Both worth to try.
Xen-Troops worked out of the box with recent release for S4. It is based on current LTS version. No graphics.
- Moulin is build tooling for it (maintained by epam)
- Default config is Dom0 and DomD. DomU is optional.
autoSD or CentOS can also be options.
- first have an autoSD running.
- see if e.g. S-Core can be applied on top of the example system (discussion happened today in S-Core working group).
- -> Good topic for the ELISA workshop in May
approach potential automotive partner and hardware vendor with a working system
Xen to build Dom0 and spawn other DomUs e.g. based on CentOS with podman inside.
x86 architecture may be a point as well as they bring the confidential computing hardware blocks and it can be checked how they can be used for safety.
- This would imply KVM most likely or maybe kata container.
- x86 is a major topic in railway industry and also for robotics/industrial applications.

Worked on gdoc draft to work for the LFE requests: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Uzp4-mAAOd9uMhyKx5Vaa0C8Mq5w1IxhHFAgyE0I9p0
Survey: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1qSJ_tixVK2ZkwyTNBK-Hk4trOZwitca-v3xPwFaQepA
Press release: https://docs.google.com/document/d/15VeKQQgjV-tfR8c4b3tnZgfaIEx27gI0XFxZ-5UicRc
Next:
- Bring the draft towards LF Europe end of the week. --> Mae wants to reach out to LF Europe
- Have it published in LF Europe and ELISA newsletter e/o March.
- Collect feedback in April
- Use it for OSS NA in June.
Make sure that Kate speaks to Gabriele Columbro during LF member summit