January 29, 2024 ‐ 16:00 UTC - elisa-tech/wg-systems GitHub Wiki

Host:

  • Philipp Ahmann

Participants:

  • Thomas Mittelstädt
  • Walt Miner
  • Alfred Strauch
  • Steven Carbno
  • Stewart Hildebrand

** Regrets **

  • Olivier Charrier

Topics & Notes:

Check past action items

  • AI: Double check with Sudip, if the PR was understandable and can be reproduced in CI.
    • Sudip dropped a mail, that he will reproduce locally this week.

Check recent PR on documentation updates

  • As Sudip did not participate in last Tools WG, no discussion about PR was done. Mail was dropped.
  • Sudip will reproduce Thomas' qemu setup locally this week.
  • Latest version of PR is #11

Check existing issues and update status in Github

  • https://github.com/elisa-tech/wg-systems/issues
  • Take some topics also from annual update
  • Discuss about x86 hardware
    • x86 are known to be more expensive and has higher power consumption in the past, but this may not be applicable to any use case.
    • Concept of ARM and x86 system architecture is different. Many things are database driven like with PCIe, USB and less hardware drivers.
    • This is nice compared to device trees as there is a standard.
    • The x86 processors are strong for computation, but you miss additional co-processors.
  • HBOM not yet on the agenda of the Systems WG, but it will get more momentum in a few months.
    • Also keep in mind e.g. Verilog and VHDL.
    • Verilog is describing hardware, but is code and can be treated like software in the analysis.
    • Just a remark: Hardware Description goes through hardware verification in DO-254 (HW counterpart to DO-178) => to be double checked with Steve before spreading the word. 😉
  • Run through existing tickets and cleaned up the status to represent the current work an planned next work items.

AoB

  • Report on CES from Walt
    • Many participants (like pre-covid)
    • Lot of OEMs with large booths in west hall
    • Hyundai had a huge presence
    • Larger Tier1 presence (APTIV rented a building, Conti large tent, Valeo, Panasonic, ...)
    • 1 or 2 not-flying flying cars.
    • SDV gets a lot of traction.
    • AMD was showing AGL demo with also Xen running on v2000
    • everybody talks about AI
    • half of one pagers from ELISA handed out. Others go to Fosdem.
    • Lots of talks about SDV and Safety.
    • Few medical companies asking about AGL and Medical.
  • No meeting next week due to FOSDEM.