Feb 10, 2025 ‐ 16:30 UTC - elisa-tech/wg-systems GitHub Wiki

Host:

• Philipp Ahmann

Participants:

• Patrick Uven
• Sebastian Hetze
• Walt Miner
• Daniel Weingaertner
• Leonardo Rossetti
• Nicole Pappler (2nd half)
• Gabriele Paoloni
• Rinat Shagisultanov

Regrets:

• ...

Attended Recently

• Troy Sabin
• Steven Carbno
• Karen Bennet
• Roberto Paccapeli
• Alfred Strauch
• Kate Stewart
• Thomas Mittelstädt
• Stewart Hildebrand
• Olivier Charrier

Topics & Notes:

Check past action items

• Previous meeting notes: https://github.com/elisa-tech/wg-systems/wiki/Nov-25,-2024-%E2%80%90-16:00-UTC
• AI-Sebastian: Involvement of DIN can also be interesting. Sebastian will take a first contact.
  • Communication started. Another meeting scheduled in Feb.
• AI-Philipp: Invite the epam people to tell a bit about their work and planned activities (specifically Pi5).
  • No feedback from epam so far. Need to follow up.
  • Will check, if someone from epam at FOSDEM (no speaker seen)
• AI-Philipp: Reach out to Thomas M. and Andreas B. for enabling Pi5 with Xen and Zephyr
  • No chance by Andreas B. to contribute currently.
• AI-Philipp: Response to new Railway WG idea from Sebastian.
  • Mail dropped waiting for response.
  • Check also: https://fosdem.org/2025/schedule/track/railways/
  • new interest received after Fosdem.

Standards Atlas

• Deep-dive session conducted last week.

Automotive BOF (and other FOSDEM topics)

• Automotive BOF
  • https://fosdem.org/2025/schedule/event/fosdem-2025-6762-automotive-bof/
  • Room pretty full. With lots of good discussions.
  • Topics: CAN, publicly available data and message sets, Functional Safety
  • Propose to it again next year.
  • Autosar and OSS also came up and also Misra.
• Two people dropped mail showing interest in ELISA Railway WG.
• As part of CRA the EC mandated to create SoA software quality measurements. This focuses on cyber-security, but this can match Safety as well.
  • CEN-ELEC and ETSI is just starting and there is a potential of overlap to our project proposal. https://cyberstand.eu/
  • Funding involved

Good Quality Practices in Open Source [cont.]

• Worked on gdoc draft to work for the LFE requests: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Uzp4-mAAOd9uMhyKx5Vaa0C8Mq5w1IxhHFAgyE0I9p0
• Slides prepared for LF Europe Advisory Board meeting (Feb 6th) and shared with Advisory board. https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1IXeyc2kNEg_s2qn95eyH1MdyxNtgyHgu/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=105935388251731588997
• UnConference Session conducted at CHAOSScon
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  • Summary to be created.
• Trustable presentation from Codethink at FOSDEM fits into scope of Best practices. https://fosdem.org/2025/schedule/event/fosdem-2025-6204-the-trustable-software-framework-a-new-way-to-measure-risk-in-continuous-delivery-of-critical-software/
  • Touches some elements of the best practices of open source projects, but adds other formal elements.
  • Further links: https://gitlab.com/CodethinkLabs/safety-monitor https://trustable.gitlab.io/
  • Will be transferred to Eclipse SDV so the represented stuff on gitlab will be updated during this migration.
  • Will present Trustable during Eclipse Automotive Process SIG Mar, 3rd. Leonardo & Philipp will report a bit from it after the meeting.
• Next steps:
  • Need to prepare questions for the survey to come with LF press release. -> Press release should be out by e/o Feb?!
  • Check if it is possible to promote project as part of OSS NA.
  • Submit to OSS NA happening June 23rd -> Standards & Specifications -> Standards for Critical and Emerging Technology
    • Joint submission by Philipp & Gab

AoB

• Another interesting talk was "Enhancing Testing Strategies for Critical Systems: Statistical Path Coverage"
• This week virtual WG updates are happening.
• Schedule another Standards Atlas Deep-Dive.