27 May 2025 - elisa-tech/tsc GitHub Wiki

Roll call

** indicates TSC voting members*

Host

  • *Philipp Ahmann

Attended this meeting

  • *Luigi Pellecchia
  • Pierre Brangier
  • *Alessandro Carminati
  • *Kate Stewart
  • Jielin Yu
  • Jun Go
  • Pete Brink
  • *Igor Stoppa
  • *Matt Weber
  • *Olivier Charrier
  • *Christopher Temple

Regrets

Attended recently in the past

  • *Luigi Pellecchia
  • *Gab Paoloni
  • *Igor Stoppa
  • *Paul Albertella
  • *Christopher Temple
  • *Nicole Pappler
  • *Olivier Charrier
  • *Kate Stewart
  • *Paul Albertella
  • *Igor Stoppa
  • *Alessandro Carminati
  • *Gabriele Paoloni
  • *Matthew Weber
  • *Matt Kelly
  • *Sudip Mukherjee
  • *Lukas Bulwahn
  • Henrik Brandle
  • Pierre Brangier
  • Patrick Uven
  • Sebastian Hetze
  • Panos Kalorog
  • Pete Brink
  • Michael Mahoney
  • Jaylin
  • Naresh Ravuri
  • Elana Copperman
  • Steve VanderLeest
  • Qasim

Topics & Notes

Check past action items

  • Action items in github issues
  • AI-Paul: Discuss in OSEP WG meeting where to put the "good practices for Open Source" document
  • AI: EMQ SDV WG ideas to be added to one of next TSC meeting agenda
    • Continue discussion, already involvement in AGL SDV activties by EMQ.
    • Chat also with Walt about it.

Lund Workshop Recap

  • Always a few audio issues as virtual, but overall worked good (and better than last workshop)
  • Interesting sessions and also the discussions. Onsite experience was good.
  • In person was easier to follow than remotely. Discussions offline happened, this is hard to follow. Remotely, you easily loose the discussion thread.
  • Room was setup in 2 groups with U shape plus audience in the back. -> Room constraints.
  • Check the audience background (where possible upfront) to e.g. skip some intros about functional safety or explicitly add it.
    • Could also be something for the intro session.
  • Catchbox could be a great addition and create dynamics.
  • Poll / Small game created interaction -> Maybe leverage this a bit more day by day, like the word cloud.
  • Also for further feedback (e.g. the day after)
  • AmA session links very well with introduction and audience expectation.
  • More time for discussion was there and the ratio of presentation and discussion was good
  • More demos? -> Jan-Simon presented the meta-elisa demo
  • More time to talk about topics at the end. Block 2h at the end without the agenda. Or also during the workshop.
    • Room for unconference session. (Observe time zones and remote participation.)

Next ELISA Workshop Timing & Location

  • EMQ proposes a workshop in Hong Kong.
  • Some desire to do something in Korea.
  • Nvidia offered to host at West Coast US.
  • Pick this up next TSC again

AGL SDV EG collaboration - How to continue? (Lund Follow up)

  • Triggered during Lund WS, Kusakabe-san (Honda) requested a follow up.
  • Pre-discussion included Kusakabe-san and Gab, who both cannot attend today.
  • Topic for next meeting

Short status from WGs

Up to 3 bullet points

  • Aerospace/Space
    • Whitepaper abstract set, working intro and guidance for contribution of sections
      • Added 30 mins to the end of the AGL call to tie-in Space focused stakeholders
    • Use case validation team
      • Completed native validation example (tie'n results into CICD)
      • Attracted two more participants to weekly call
      • Martin discussing starting student projects for some of our outstanding tasks
      • Starting to build a ARM64 emulation based on minimal kernel to re-target the native validation against
    • Space
      • Working towards merge of first pull request
        • Hardware/emulation targets
        • Repo mgmt tool (kas/repo)
        • Yocto release
        • Layer structuring based on intended use (e.g., -core strategy)
      • Roadmap
        • Skeleton of a layer
        • CICD
        • Docs
        • SBOM
        • Footprint tracking/analysis
      • Actions: Kickoff Docs effort / Plan for adding cFS layer / Default feature set proposal
  • Automotive
  • Medical (looking for new use case)
  • Arch
  • Linux Features
  • OSEP
  • Tools
  • Systems

AoB

  • MC proposal for Plumbers submitted

Announcements

Topics for seminar series

  • To be defined: SDV seminar by EMQ to motivate the update and cloud part of HPC systems
  • RT webinar once PREEMPT_RT as last patch is mainline.🥳
  • Past webinars on website: https://elisa.tech/seminar-series/
  • Later this year:
  • ELISA user story by a company.
  • Julia Lawall about formal verification (derived from Lund Linux Con presentation)

Upcoming events

  • 27-28 May - Lund Linux Con
  • 23-26 Jun - OSS NA Denver
  • 08-09 Jul - AGL AMM Berlin
  • 25-27 Aug - OSS EU
  • 09-14 Sep - IAA Munich

Remarks

Collaborative editing: https://mensuel.framapad.org/p/elisa-tsc-minutes-a9tp?lang=en