11 Jun 2025 - elisa-tech/tsc GitHub Wiki

Roll call

** indicates TSC voting members*

Host

  • *Philipp Ahmann

Attended this meeting

  • *Kate Stewart
  • Pete Brink
  • *Alessandro Carminati
  • *Gab Paoloni
  • Jielin Yu
  • *Luigi Pellecchia
  • PIerre Brangier
  • Stephen Oresanya
  • Victor Lu
  • Henrik Brandle
  • *Olivier Charrier
  • *Igor Stoppa
  • *Chris Temple

Regrets

Attended recently in the past

  • *Luigi Pellecchia
  • *Gab Paoloni
  • *Igor Stoppa
  • *Paul Albertella
  • *Christopher Temple
  • *Nicole Pappler
  • *Olivier Charrier
  • *Kate Stewart
  • *Paul Albertella
  • *Igor Stoppa
  • *Alessandro Carminati
  • *Gabriele Paoloni
  • *Matthew Weber
  • *Matt Kelly
  • *Sudip Mukherjee
  • *Lukas Bulwahn
  • Henrik Brandle
  • Pierre Brangier
  • Patrick Uven
  • Sebastian Hetze
  • Panos Kalorog
  • Pete Brink
  • Michael Mahoney
  • Jaylin
  • Naresh Ravuri
  • Elana Copperman
  • Steve VanderLeest
  • Qasim

Topics & Notes

Check past action items

  • Action items in github issues
  • AI: EMQ SDV WG ideas to be added to one of next TSC meeting agenda
    • Continue discussion, already involvement in AGL SDV activities by EMQ.
    • Chat also with Walt about it.

Next ELISA Workshop Timing & Location

  • EMQ proposes a workshop in Hong Kong.
  • Some desire to do something in Korea.
    • Doing 1/2 day meetup at Korean University with focus on SGL before OSS Korea.
    • Consider also add-on event at OSS Korea. (Min will check.)
    • Before or after 4-5 November.
  • Nvidia offered to host at West Coast US.
    • Just need to get the dates.
    • Easier for people from Asia to get to SFO with a direct flight.
    • In case workshop in US, we should consider an add-on event in Asia (Hong Kong/Korea/Japan).
  • OSS JP + LPC in December from 08-13 Dec. -> Most likely no side event as already present in both events.
  • Create a poll preferred
    • Beginning of October in SFO bay area hosted by Nvidia (2 days in week 6-9th October )
    • Beginning of November Hong Kong hosted at The Hong Kong Polytechnic University (PolyU) after OSS Korea (4-5) with a wished focus on Automotive by EMQ (6-7 November).

AGL SDV EG collaboration - How to continue? (Lund Follow up)

  • Triggered during Lund WS, Kusakabe-san (Honda) requested a follow up.
  • Pre-discussion included Kusakabe-san and Gab, who both couldn't attend TSC May 27th.
  • Will discuss this in person at OSS NA. Setup an adhoc meeting. -> Philipp to drop a mail and coordinate (Tuesday?).
  • Continue topic in next TSC meeting on June 25th

Any messaging system to extend the mailing list (like Discord/Matrix/Slack/Element) wished or needed

  • LFSCS has more active exchange from the working group. Instant Messaging would be nice for these discussions.
    • Quick communication channel.
  • Aerospace was also asking for this. If Matt remembers correctly Stoke offered to provide a slack channel.
    • If ELISA considers a tool, it has to go through LF IT.
  • Question on instant messenger came up also during workshops in the past.
  • LF Edge was also having a slack channel, which went into silence after a time.
    • You need to maintain it there and also inform about events,
  • In the free version of slack you will lose history over time.
  • Discord worked well for Zephyr. Also KernelCI uses it.
  • Matrix chatroom for BASIL. It is also used for Linux Plumbers. -> Matrix used via Element mobile app.
    • Free and public chat room.
  • Do we need to limit access? -> Not strictly required for LFSCS. Only in case SPAM occurs.
  • LF IT provides options for
    • Discord
      • Fee tbd.
    • Slack
      • Major disadvantage: loose history in free version (paid version based on description)
      • Free version is not an option due to loosing history.
    • Discourse <- out
    • (Matrix may not be supported. Plumbers channel comes from community)
  • Min to have a look what it means to use Discord for ELISA and have it as a topic for the next Governing Board meeting (as costs are involved)

Present work from EMQ about SDV (and safety) experience

  • May be submitted to OSS Korea (Safety Critical Track) and OSS Japan (Automotive Track)

Short status from WGs

Up to 3 bullet points

  • Aerospace/Space
  • Automotive
  • Medical (looking for new use case)
  • Arch
  • Linux Features
  • OSEP
  • Tools
  • Systems
    • Lighthouse-oss repo has first PR
    • Now closing survey and align on first meeting
    • Will present best practices standard idea at OSS NA. (Waitlisted for OSS EU)

AoB

  • Need to consider summer time plans (TSC chair on leave from July 1st to August 10th)

Announcements

Topics for seminar series

  • To be defined: SDV seminar by EMQ to motivate the update and cloud part of HPC systems
  • RT webinar once PREEMPT_RT as last patch is mainline.🥳
  • Past webinars on website: https://elisa.tech/seminar-series/
  • Later this year:
  • ELISA user story by a company.
  • Julia Lawall about formal verification (derived from Lund Linux Con presentation)

Upcoming events

  • 23-26 Jun - OSS NA Denver
  • 08-09 Jul - AGL AMM Berlin
  • 25-27 Aug - OSS EU
  • 09-14 Sep - IAA Munich

Remarks

Collaborative editing: https://mensuel.framapad.org/p/elisa-tsc-minutes-a9tp?lang=en