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Sanjay K. Gupta is an American neurosurgeon and author. He is an assistant professor in the medical school at Emory University. He became known for his various programs and guest posts on CNN, and in 2006 he received an Emmy for his contributions during Hurricane Katrina.

Sanjay Gupta books include:

Chasing Life: New Discoveries in the Search for Immortality to Help You Age Less Today

Readers searching for the key to eternal life will find some clues in neurosurgeon Gupta's survey of the latest research on longevity. Gupta, CNN's chief medical correspondent, discusses recent developments while offering some key guidelines.

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In his fictional beginnings, Dr. Gupta, a practicing neurosurgeon and CNN's chief medical correspondent, brings readers to an exclusive cadre of Chelsea general surgeons associated with feared and revered Morbidity and Mortality (M&M) conferences onโ€ฆ

Cheating Death: The Doctors and Medical Miracles That Are Saving Lives Against All Odds

Prominent doctor and journalist Gupta, the CNN medical reporter and columnist for The Times who declined President Obama's nomination to be a general surgeon, knows a great story when he hears one, and in this set she appears...

Keep Sharp: Build a Better Brain at Any Age

Gupta (Chasing Life), a neurosurgeon and CNN's chief medical reporter, offers promising advice on how to keep your brain healthy in this booster study. With many references to medical studies, it fully debunks common myths about the brain,

World War C: Lessons from the Covid-19 Pandemic and How to Prepare for the Next One

"Despite 21st century medicine, dazzling computer models and pandemic planning, we weren't prepared" for Covid-19, CNN Chief Medical Correspondent Gupta (Keep Sharp) warns in this hopeful survey. Gupta sums up what the world got.

Sanjay Gupta books

Sanjay Gupta books

I spoke with Dr. Sanjay Gupta recently. He is CNN's chief medical correspondent and has just published a new book on the pandemic. I asked him to describe where we are now in this crisis, and this is what he said.

Sanjay Gupta: If I'm going to think of the country as my patient, I think, you know, the patient is still in intensive care.

MARTIN: Gupta spoke with the nation's top public health experts for his book, including White House counsel Dr. Anthony Fauci and former CDC director Robert Redfield. He came out of all his research convinced it didn't have to be that bad.

Gupta: At first, the idea that a pathogen would come and randomly affect the richest countries in the world more than other countries, I don't think anyone really came across. And it was kind of shocking in hindsight to hear the thoughts about it. We'll be fine, I think, was the idea of โ€‹โ€‹a lot of people. They are the United States. And then there was the idea that we were going to swing for a local run or knockout type. And everything will be in the vaccine. We don't really need to rely so heavily on basic public health measures. This is not something we should do. So I guess there was all of these things.

Martin: So all the confusion around mask messaging, does it really work and do we really need social distancing? This kind of thing.

GUPTA: You know, with masks, for example, I think when the evidence became really clear, it was a virus that could spread aggressively even if someone didn't have any symptoms, that was something really new. I think the respiratory pathogen mostly transmitted through people who have no symptoms was really surprising and even shocking. But he also made masks mandatory.

Martin: Obviously, developing a vaccine was just a massive achievement. But I didn't hear the anecdote you have in the book about Dr. Fauci's discovery and how emotional it was for him. And that really underscores how important it is to change this vaccine so quickly.

Gupta: Dr. Fauci - Your life's work was really HIV/AIDS - 40 years. We do not have a vaccine for HIV/AIDS. People look at this and say, well, it's cool. We receive a vaccine in one year. As you know, it is. Forty years, he has been working on the development of a vaccine for HIV / AIDS. We don't have one yet. So the idea of โ€‹โ€‹us having one wasn't planned for him. The idea that we'd have one in a year, I think, stunned him away.

Martin: Here we are.

GUPTA: Here we are.

Martin: The United States has the lowest vaccination rates of all the G7 countries. How does that change?

GUPTA: Vaccine frequency is not new. I'm digging into this. I went down all the rabbit holes. I started talking to people who worked on smallpox vaccinations. I said, you know, what is it historical? What are we dealing with here? I think it's more common in rich countries. For one thing, they want the vaccine because it's in-house run. On the other hand, they doubt it a lot. There are some people who are just afraid of new things or some people who tell the really terrible story about trying medical treatments, like Tuskegee. There are others who simply think, look; I am healthy. I really don't need this.

So there are all these different reasons. And when it all comes down to it, 15-20% of the population will fall into this category and die on that hill. And I don't mean death. I'm not trying to be disdainful. I mean, that's your problem.

MARTIN: Dr. Redfield told you that this virus is likely to be with us as long as this nation is a nation. So what does that mean for the way we live our lives?

Gupta: I realize it's a difficult way to look at things. But in the end, what I've learned, having covered not only this outbreak, but other outbreaks, even epidemics, and traveled to places around the world, is that it's probably more hospital admissions than any other metric that makes the biggest difference. We pay for this. Hospitals are overcrowded in many parts of the country. This affects everyone. Sixty-six percent of our ICU patients are COVID patients. Ninety-five percent of COVID patients are not vaccinated. So it appears to be very preventable.

But what I mean is, I think once hospitalization rates go down, now they're going down. I mean, we're starting in a downward trend. That's why I'm a cautious optimist. Once they get to a point where we don't feel the impact on society as much, I think we'll live with this. We dance with this.