camera mounting - SteveJustin1963/Telescope-Tec1 GitHub Wiki
Yes β in most cases, a removable-lens camera (like a DSLR, mirrorless, or industrial C-mount camera) is far better for telescope mounting than a fixed-lens type. Hereβs why:
- With a removable lens, you can take the camera lens off and attach the camera directly to the telescopeβs focuser using a T-ring and T-adapter.
- This lets the telescope itself act as the camera lens β the light path goes straight through the telescopeβs optics to the sensor.
- Result: maximum sharpness, light throughput, and no vignetting or focus mismatch.
- Removable-lens cameras usually have manual ISO, shutter, and exposure control β essential for astrophotography.
- Larger sensors (APS-C or full-frame) capture wider fields of view and more light, improving low-light performance and detail.
- You can also use RAW capture, which retains faint detail in nebulae, stars, or planetary surfaces.
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You can switch easily between setups:
- Telescope β camera body (prime focus)
- Telescope β Barlow lens β camera (for magnification)
- Telescope β eyepiece projection β camera (for planetary work)
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You can also add filters (IR-cut, narrowband, UV) in the optical path, which is much harder with fixed-lens cameras.
- Many telescopes (especially Newtonian, Schmidt-Cassegrain, and refractors) are designed with T-thread or 1.25"/2" eyepiece mounts, meant to hold a camera body directly.
- Fixed-lens cameras (compact or phone) require extra optics (afocal adapters), which often introduce aberrations or make focusing difficult.
- For quick snapshots of the Moon through the eyepiece (afocal photography).
- For educational setups or casual observing.
- But image quality will be limited by the extra glass and alignment.
If you plan on doing serious or even intermediate astrophotography, get a camera body with a removable lens β ideally:
- Mirrorless (smaller, lighter, less vibration),
- DSLR (still great for general astrophotography),
- or a dedicated astronomy camera (ZWO, QHY, etc.) that directly fits into a telescope focuser.
Would you like me to show you the exact adapter chain (with diagrams or part names) for mounting a DSLR or mirrorless body to a typical telescope focuser (e.g., 1.25β³ or 2β³)?
If I adapt to put the mirrorless camera onto my Newtonian telescope, where should the focal plane be set up for the camera to work?
Excellent question β and this one really gets to the heart of Newtonian telescope imaging geometry. The focal plane is the exact spot where your telescopeβs light cone converges to a sharp point β and for a camera to focus properly, its sensor must sit exactly in that plane.
Letβs break it down carefully π
A Newtonian telescope reflects light from:
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Primary mirror β forms an image near the top of the tube.
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Secondary mirror (flat) β bends that image sideways to the focuser.
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The focal plane is therefore just outside the focuser drawtube β where your eyepiece field stop normally sits.
When you remove the eyepiece and attach a camera body, the camera sensor must sit exactly where the eyepiece field stop was.
For prime focus astrophotography, the optical system should meet this requirement:
Distance from the top of the focuser drawtube to the focal plane = the cameraβs flange focal distance (FFD)
| Camera Mount | Flange Focal Distance (mm) |
|---|---|
| Canon EF (DSLR) | 44.0 mm |
| Nikon F | 46.5 mm |
| Sony E (mirrorless) | 18.0 mm |
| Canon RF (mirrorless) | 20.0 mm |
| Micro Four Thirds | 19.25 mm |
| ZWO/QHY astronomy cams (T-thread) | ~12.5 mm to sensor |
Would you like me to draw you an ASCII or diagrammatic cross-section showing the Newtonianβs mirror, secondary, focuser, and sensor placement β including where the focal plane sits relative to each? Itβs very helpful when adjusting mirror position or choosing adapter lengths.
Hereβs a clear ASCII-style cross-section diagram showing how to position a mirrorless camera on a Newtonian telescope, including where the focal plane sits:
Light path from sky
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β Primary mirror β
β (parabolic) β
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\ reflected converging beam
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\ ββββββββ Optical axis
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\ \ β converging cone of light
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\ \ β secondary mirror (flat, 45Β°)
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\ ββββββββββββββββ to focuser drawtube
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| | β focuser drawtube
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β FOCAL PLANE (where image forms)
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β Camera body (mirrorless) β
β Sensor plane (marked βΞ¦β) β
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| Element | Description |
|---|---|
| Primary mirror | Forms the image near the tube top. |
| Secondary mirror | Redirects the image sideways into the focuser. |
| Focal plane | Where the image is perfectly sharp. Must coincide with your cameraβs sensor. |
| Camera sensor | Should be positioned at that focal plane β measure from the cameraβs flange (mount surface) to its sensor (typically 18β20 mm for mirrorless). |
| Focuser travel | Should allow you to move Β±10 mm around that plane for fine focus. |
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If your camera cannot reach focus even with the focuser all the way in β
the focal plane is too far inside the tube β move the primary mirror forward slightly. -
If your camera focuses with the focuser nearly racked out β
the focal plane is too far out β add a short extension tube (20β40 mm).
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Remove eyepiece, point at a bright distant object.
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Hold white card at focuser top, move until the image is sharp.
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Measure that distance from the focuser lip β thatβs your true focal plane.
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Adjust your camera + adapters so its sensor (the βΞ¦β mark) lands at exactly that distance.
If you tell me your telescopeβs focuser type (1.25β³ or 2β³) and camera model, I can calculate the exact adapter combination and spacing (mm) youβll need so the sensor lands right at the focal plane. Would you like me to do that next?
Perfect β youβve got a 1.25β³ Newtonian focuser and a Canon M100 mirrorless camera (EF-M mount).
Letβs calculate and show exactly how to mount it so the sensor sits at the telescopeβs focal plane π
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EF-M mount FFD = 18 mm (distance from the lens mount to the sensor).
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Your telescopeβs image must therefore fall 18 mm behind the T-adapterβs shoulder when the camera is attached.
[ Telescope focuser (1.25") ]
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β 1.25" T-adapter barrel β (~30 mm long, slides into focuser)
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β (has external T2 thread, M42Γ0.75)
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β Canon EF-M T-ring adapter β (M42 female β EF-M bayonet)
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β (provides 37 mm spacing)
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β Canon M100 camera body β
β Sensor sits 18 mm behind β
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Total backfocus:
30 mm (T-adapter) + 37 mm (EF-M T-ring) + 18 mm (sensor) β 85 mm
Most Newtonians designed for astrophotography have a backfocus range of 55β75 mm, so you might be slightly long.
If your focuser still has some in-travel left, this setup will focus perfectly.
If you run out of inward travel before reaching focus, you can:
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use a shorter 1.25β³ T-adapter (20β25 mm), or
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move your primary mirror forward by 10β15 mm.
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Remove eyepiece and fully insert the 1.25β³ T-adapter into focuser.
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Attach Canon EF-M T-ring to adapter.
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Mount camera body (no lens).
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Point telescope at a bright distant object or star; use Live View to focus.
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If you reach focus before the drawtube bottoms out, youβre done.
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If not, adjust mirror or adapter length as above.
| Part | Example | Notes |
|---|---|---|
| 1.25β³ T-Adapter | Svbony SV138, Orion 1.25β³ T-Adapter | Slides into focuser, gives external T2 thread |
| Canon EF-M T-Ring | βEF-M T2 mount adapterβ | Converts T2 thread to Canon M-mount |
| Optional Extension | 20 mm T-thread spacer | Only if you run out of outward travel |
Telescope tube
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β T-adapter β β 30 mm
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β EF-M T-ring β β 37 mm
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β Canon M100 β
β Sensor (18 mm)β
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β β focal plane (must coincide with sensor)
If you tell me your telescopeβs aperture and focal length (e.g., 130/650 mm, 150/750 mm, etc.), I can estimate the exact field of view youβll get with the M100βs APS-C sensor β helpful for framing deep-sky objects or planetary work. Would you like me to calculate that next?