meeting 2024 06 11 n410 - JacobPilawa/TriaxSchwarzschild_wiki_5 GitHub Wiki
- Summarizing the kinematic extraction, MGE fitting, and other input choices before running the first set of models.
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Stats:
- D = 75.5, Jensen+21 SBF
- Brightest group member, 29 group members
- _e = 247 km/s
- Mk = −25.90, log10(Mstar) = 11.86
- eps = 0.25, lambda = 0.03 (Slow rotator)
- log10(Mhalo) = 14.4
- MASSIVE XIV: Note that MASSIVE XIV says this galaxy is aligned, whereas MASSIVE X says it is misaligned
- PA GMOS = 311 +/- 22
- PA Mitchell = 161.0 ± 18.5
- PA Phot = 34.9 (MASSIEV XIV: 35.8 ± 0.9)
- Psi GMOS = 4.8 ± 9.3 (MASSIVE XIV)
- Psi Mitchell = 53.9 (MASSIVE X)
- Kinematic Twist, with note about low S/N
- Photometry:
- has disky isophotes between ∼10–30 arcsec. Outside of this range the isophotes go back to B4≈0. The ellipticity also peaks at ∼30 arcsec, beyond which it is approximately constant
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GMOS:
- All files seem to be on BOX.
- Has both symmetric and non-symmetric binning schemes.
- Other details:
- Files on BOX say:
- +X = 148 deg. E of N. in orbit modeling files
- +X = +X = -32 deg. E of N. in paperversion figures of kinematic moments
- PSF listed as: avg. FWHM = 0.39" (Gaussian)
- 128 bins (symmetric)
- 131 bins (non-symmetric)
- Files on BOX say:
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Mitchell
- All Mitchell files for all galaxies are present! There are folded and unfolded versions for everything. I'm currently sticking with our usual unfolded data.
- 64 bins (unfolded)
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Need to do this still for comparison to Irina.
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Irina lists the settings on BOX as:
Nominal settings for pPXF fits to NGC 410 GMOS data
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Wavelength range (rest): 8420-8730 A
Template list: barthlist.txt
(15 stars from Barth et al. 2002 -- spectra are from MILES Calcium Triplet library)
Spectrum mask: /GMOS/galaxy_files/N410/spectra/N410_spectra_mask1_nochipgap.fits
(bright sky lines as assessed from inspection of GMOS spectra)
(GMOS chip gap lies outside the pPXF wavelength range)
Initial velocity shift: 5000 km/s
Multiplicative polynomial: degree 3
Additive polynomial: degree 0 (constant offset)
Bias parameter: 0
And the spectra and resulting fits look beautiful!
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- Need to do this still for comparison to Irina.
- And lastly, here's what we'll likely use for the modeling. Note that this uses the non-symmetric binning scheme (so it's hard to compare directly to Irina's which is symmetrically binned).
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Spectral fits out to h8 for the 167 asymmetric bins
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- Note these are the point-symmetrized versions of the kinematics.
Sym vs. Non-Sym Comparison | Radial Moments | GMOS Maps | Mitchell Maps |
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- Started doing some preliminary MGE fitting and background information gathering for N410 while we try to track down the spectra.
- I've done our usual MGE fitting (unregularized) for a few different bounds on sigma (0,1,2,3,4) pixels from the center:
- I likely need to go back and regularize these given the distribution of some of the q' values (reaching sometimes ~0.4 or so, severely limit deprojection).
- The MGEs look alright, but I think there is some work that can be done. There seems to be a lot of contaminating light in the original image (see below), but we already are applying a mask, so unsure what to do beyond that.
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And here are all of the components listed for each of these MGEs:
- 0p0:
I [Lsun/pc^2] Sig [arcsec] q PA
9681.66 0.0324025 1 0
9050.49 0.347318 1 0
10309.2 0.633257 1 0
7491.84 1.11551 0.962657 0
377.607 1.62733 0.504445 0
3267.61 2.08795 0.89042 0
1648.3 3.80717 0.897147 0
278.569 4.47822 0.379619 0
322.17 7.58985 1 0
352.533 7.92285 0.479959 0
418.602 10.289 0.713776 0
158.103 19.8302 0.542994 0
162.11 24.8701 0.777531 0
53.4346 55.4603 0.718483 0
- 1p0:
I [Lsun/pc^2] Sig [arcsec] q PA
3011.96 0.1 1 0
9465.52 0.367336 1 0
9797.26 0.655894 1 0
7346.5 1.1368 0.948555 0
3218.46 2.07872 0.899578 0
197.405 2.10612 0.37637 0
1596.32 3.84006 0.910268 0
360.677 4.20741 0.442922 0
337.767 8.11675 0.460665 0
664.404 8.73971 0.855008 0
133.828 15.954 0.529093 0
111.016 21.5333 0.589591 0
141.304 25.2786 0.789614 0
52.1756 55.9714 0.715807 0
- 2p0:
I [Lsun/pc^2] Sig [arcsec] q PA
7085.04 0.26999 1 0
12453.4 0.560416 1 0
8966.47 1.09309 0.947945 0
3579.17 2.19181 0.84354 0
1639.66 4.01745 0.887016 0
322.078 7.88833 0.386095 0
729.004 9.0452 0.814569 0
171.004 19.0639 0.530437 0
172.22 24.6405 0.770349 0
54.449 55.0486 0.720493 0
- 3p0:
I [Lsun/pc^2] Sig [arcsec] q PA
8270.01 0.3 1 0
11004.6 0.582731 1 0
7724.13 1.03596 0.979062 0
807.51 1.44056 0.649154 0
3436.59 1.92622 0.913712 0
847.36 3.34952 0.707696 0
1330.33 3.86266 0.937046 0
103.423 5.23177 0.232302 0
369.15 7.93331 0.472814 0
651.932 8.7723 0.855676 0
136.689 15.9643 0.527817 0
110.333 21.6012 0.591412 0
140.276 25.3063 0.790162 0
52.079 56.0097 0.715665 0
- 4p0:
I [Lsun/pc^2] Sig [arcsec] q PA
14032 0.4 1 0
11813.7 0.887422 0.967784 0
4718.84 1.81146 0.897153 0
1939.57 3.63963 0.891352 0
280.32 4.36675 0.354459 0
356.382 7.48161 1 0
375.049 7.86277 0.489978 0
400.4 10.4518 0.705815 0
156.468 19.9151 0.544937 0
161.12 24.8729 0.778398 0
53.435 55.4645 0.718339 0
- Here are all the input files used in the modeling and the various choices I've made:
aperture_gmos/aperture_mitchell.dat
- The only real number that I control in these files are the
kin*gridtheta
values, which represent the difference between the MGE +x axis and the +x axis of the kinematics. - These numbers are computed as PA_MGE - PA_kinematics:
- The MGE PA comes from the fits abiove, which uses 35.75 E of N
- The kinematic PAs come from the files on BOX.
- For GMOS, these values are listed in /MASSIVE/GMOS_kinematics/N0410/N0410_PA_note.txt, which lists the +x axis of the orbit modeling files as +35 deg E of N.
- For Mitchell, the numbers are located in /MASSIVE/Mitchell_reduced_data/NGC0547/kinematics_paperversion/unfolded/more_files/NGC0777-s2-unfolded-bininfo.txt, which lists the gal pa as +34.9 deg E of N.
- This means that the input files should have
kin1gridtheta
andkin2gridtheta
as 0.75 and 0.85, respectively.
bins_gmos/bins_mitchell.dat
- I don't make any choices for these files. These are generated when preparing the orbit model files and associated the apertures with specific kinematics.
kindata.dat
- This is our normal kindata.dat file, which comes from the Gh8Mh6 minimization described above.
- This file contains 12 moments total, 8 of which are measured for the GMOS data and are from my own spectral fits, and 6 moments are fit for Mitchell (which I obtained from the files on BOX).
- I've currently left in all bins, but we can decide to mask the overlapping Mitchell bins if we'd like.
- I've added dummy moments for GMOS h9 through h12 and Mitchell h7 through h12 by assigning all the values to 0.0, and uncertainties identical to the h7/h8 errors for GMOS and h5/h6 errors for Mitchell.
mge.dat
- Currently a placeholder MGE so that we can discuss the fits above.
orbitstart_loop/box.dat
- These are just auxillary files which point to other files in our models. No changes or choices.
orblib_loop/box.in
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The only specific changes I had to make here relate to the PSFs we assumed for each dataset:
- I obtained the PSF for GMOS from the file /MASSIVE/GMOS_kinematics/N0410/N410_GMOS_PSF.txt, which says that the average weighted PSF = 0.48". The code accepts the equivalent "sigma" for this PSF, which I obtain as sigma = 0.48/(2sqrt(2ln(2))) = 0.204.
- I am using the same PSF for Mitchell as we have used for the other galaxies, which has a sigma = 0.5, which is equivalent to a 1.177" PSF.
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Other notable parameters that I kept constant from past orbit modeling:
- innermost mass bin starts at 0.1"
- outermost mass bin starts at 100" and extends to 316"
- 200 dynamical time integration for the box library; 2000 dynamical times for the loop library
parameters_loop/box.in
- Many of these parameters are changed on the fly (mass components and angles).
- I'm using:
- nEner = 40 for both
- nI2 = 18, 9 for the loop and box library respectively
- nI3 = 9, 9 for both
- logrmin = 10^-2 arcsec (minimum IC radius in arcsec)
- logrmin = 10^2.5 arcsec (maximum IC radius in arcsec)
- interplogmin = 10^-8
- interplogmax = 10^2.6
- gnfw halo with gamma = 0
triaxmass.in
- Auxillary file which points to other files.
triaxmassbin.in
- Auxillary file which points to other files.
- Also contains the same PSF information present in orblib_loop/box.dat.
triaxnnls.in
- Mostly points to other files.
- I've ensured that this file correctly assumes we have 12 total moments.
- I've also checked to make sure that this file reads in both the loop orbit library and box orbit library.