Tidal Sensitivities in AMM15 CO9 NEMO4.0.4 experiments 2004 2014 - JMMP-Group/CO_AMM15 GitHub Wiki

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  1. A record of tidal harmonics in AMM15 P0.x experiments
    1. Comparison of P0 with old equilibrium tide values and TPXO forcing against P0 with FES2014 forcing and updated equilibrium values
    2. Comparison of TPXO with old equilibrium tides versus TPXO with new equilibrium tides

A record of tidal harmonics in AMM15 P0.x experiments

Comparison of P0 with old equilibrium tide values and TPXO forcing against P0 with FES2014 forcing and updated equilibrium values.

NOTE we had a first run P0.1a that had problems with the equilibrium tidal values and was missing the Love number in the namelist. These are now corrected for and use a Love number of 0.69 in P0.1b

Note the full set of plots for P.0.1b V P.0.0 can be found under:

http://gws-access.jasmin.ac.uk/public/jmmp_collab/AMM7/outputs/AMM15TIDES/P0_FES2014_V_P0_TPXO_PLOTS/

The older plots with the bug are still available under

http://gws-access.jasmin.ac.uk/public/jmmp_collab/AMM7/outputs/AMM15TIDES/BEFORE_BUG_PHASE_CORRECTION_AND_LOVE_NUMBER_FIX_P0_FES2014_V_P0_TPXO_PLOTS/

The Year labelling is the analysis done since the start of 2004 to the end of the year label, which gives an idea
of how extra years of data effects the overall analysis.

The equivalent for CO7 3.6 V P0.0.0 can be found at http://gws-access.jasmin.ac.uk/public/jmmp_collab/AMM7/outputs/AMM15TIDES/CO7_3.6_V_4.0.4_p0.0_PLOTS/

Constituent P0.1 (FES2014) P0.0 (TPXO) CO7 3.6 FES V P0 PLOT(Clickable) Comments
Q1 Amp 0.74 cm 0.75 cm 0.76 cm similar
O1 Amp 0.877 cm 0.978 cm 0.95 cm slight improvement
P1 Amp 0.59 cm 0.62 cm 0.63 cm Slight Improvement
S1 Amp 0.76 cm 0.78 cm 0.73 cm At least some sort of correlation in FES case
K1 Amp 1.23 cm 1.36 cm 1.36 cm Slight improvement
2N2 Amp 1.16 cm 4.10 cm 4.1 cm Not present in TPX case
MU2 Amp 2.10 cm 4.69 cm 4.61 cm FES2014 significantly better
N2 Amp 2.52 cm 2.34 cm 2.59 cm Not much in it TPX slightly better
NU2 Amp 0.89 cm 5.46 cm 5.48 cm FES much better
M2 Amp 9.72 cm 10.8 cm 11.42 cm FES Much better in North Sea
L2 Amp 1.98 cm 4.38 cm 4.39 cm FES clearly better
T2 Amp 1.01 cm 2.55 cm 2.56 cm FES actually has this consitutent
S2 Amp 4.15 cm 3.90 cm 4.30 cm Not much in it FES slightly worse, particularly North Sea coast
K2 Amp 1.15 cm 0.94 cm 0.96 cm Fes Slightly worse North Sea Coast
M4 Amp 4.96 cm 5.10 cm 5.07 cm Not much in it, FES slightly better
Constituent P0.1 (FES2014) P0.0 (TPXO) CO7 3.6 FES V P0 PLOT(Clickable) Comments
Q1 Phase 29.5° 29.8° 30.0°
O1 Phase 12.2° 12.1° 12.2°
P1 Phase 18.2° 18.4° 18.4° Very similar
S1 Phase 48.7° 138.5° 142.4° FES actually has some correlation with OBS
K1 Phase 14.2° 13.8° 13.8° Very similar
2N2 Phase 28.6° 152.6° 155.7° TPX clearly hasn't got this constituent
MU2 Phase 37.0° 73.8° 72.9° FES much better
N2 Phase 20.9° 21.0° 21.1° Like P1 K1 again slight offset in phase in N2
NU2 Phase 10.40° 58.0° 57.3° TPX run looks like it hasn't got this constituent
M2 Phase 11.0° 10.6° 10.5° Phase offset in North Sea and North of Scotland
L2 Phase 38.7° 45.9° 45.2° Much better in FES case
T2 Phase 27.3° 151.3° 152.9° Looks like TPX run does not have this constituent
S2 Phase 13.0° 12.9° 12.7° Very similar
K2 Phase 13.7° 13.9° 12.9° Very similar
M4 Phase 56.9° 54.7° 52.7° Not much in it

Comparison of TPXO with old equilibrium tides versus TPXO with new equilibrium tides.

The FES run included not only extra constituents required by the FES tides, but updates to the equilibrium tidal values.

To get an idea of how much just the update tidal code effected the solution independent of the FES tidal forcing data set the newer code is run with the existing TPX tidal constituents and compared to P.0.0

Full plots are here( this only goes up to 2009):

http://gws-access.jasmin.ac.uk/public/jmmp_collab/AMM7/outputs/AMM15TIDES/UPDATED_EQUIL_V_P0_EQUIL_PLOTS/

picking out some constituents where FES had problems

For P1 Amplitude for FES struggled, but we also see the same degradation with TPXo used with the new code:

FES Comparison TPXO with newer NEMO tidal code comparison

Likewise for M2 Phase (and other constituents) for FES struggled, but we also see similar be it less, degradation with TPXO Phase used with the new code:

FES Comparison TPXO with newer NEMO tidal code comparison

K1 Phase for FES particularly struggled, ans there is very similar degradation with TPXO Phase used with the new code:

FES Comparison TPXO with newer NEMO tidal code comparison
More plots on this to follow