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2005 Saab 9-3

[2002-2014 Saab 9-3 - Wikipedia]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_9-3#Second_generation_(2002%E2%80%932014))

[Trionic 8 - Wikipedia]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trionic_8)

2005 Saab 9-3 ionization module replacement

86 mm bore

Ionization Detection Module 55352173

Harness side of detection module connector amp 1-962358-1

Individual coil-on-plug part number 12787707 H6T60271 - 4 wire connector

Spark plug AP 5503 R=6Kohm

(Connector similar to Cobalt SS but different coil?)

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resistance measurments:

between knock signal pin on CDM connector and intake air sensor connector pin A (org/wht) - 0.8Kohm - 800R

between combustion detection pin on CDM connector and intake air sensor connector pin C (org/wht) - 5.0Kohm

  • CDM 12787708 (analogue output)

  • CDM 55352173 (digital output)

for the first two years of T8 the analogue CDM was used before going digital with the same coils but the later CDM

The CDM does an initial signal processing of the ionization signals from each ignition coil. The CDM transmits three signals to the ECM:

Knock signal

Combustion signal 1 (cylinders 1 and 3)

Combustion signal 2 (cylinders 2 and 4)

These signals are used for knock control, synchronisation of ignition timing/fuel injection and for misfire detection.

Trionic T8 does not have a conventional knock sensor and instead uses the spark plugs as sensors for ionization current measurement.

A voltage of 120V is continuously applied across the spark plugs. As the pressure and temperature are very high in conjunction with combustion the gases in the combustion chamber will be electrically conductive so that electric current can flow across the spark plug gap without causing a spark.

The degree of ionization (current) is reflected in the conditions in the combustion chamber. By analyzing the ionization current ECM can determine whether combustion is normal or misfiring and whether there is knocking.

The ignition coils of the respective cylinders generate an ionization voltage= measure the ionization current and send the results to CDM for initial processing of the ionization signal from the respective ignition coil-

CDM generates a knock signal from the ionization information from the four cylinders and the signal is used by ECM to determine whether the engine is knocking. Once the spark has ignited ECM will "listen" to the knock signal of each cylinder for a specific number of crankshaft degrees: a so called window.

Identifying Piston Position

Suppose a spark has been generated in cylinder 1 and 4. CDM will detect this because it is connected to the ignition trigger line of the respective ignition coils. CDM analyses the ionization signal from ignition coil pin 4 for cylinder 1 pin 16 and cylinder 4 pin 15 on CDM.

The cylinder in which combustion has taken place will produce a powerful ionization signal.

If combustion takes place in cylinder 1 then CDM will send a pulse from pin 4 to ECM pin 20(B) and from CDM pin 11 to ECM pin 21(B) if in cylinder 4. With regard to cylinders 2 and 3: if combustion takes place in cylinder 2: a pulse will be sent from CDM pin 11 to ECM pin 21(B) and cylinder 3 a pulse from CDM pin 4 to pin 20(B) on ECM.

When combustion signals arrive on ECM pins 20(B) and 21(B)= the firing order and fuel injection will be synchronized

Knock detection

CDM analyses the ionization signals from pin 4 on the respective ignition coils.

CDM synchronizes the ionization current measurement with the firing order and generates a knock signal that is sent to ECM on pin #3.

pos color desc type CDM body code
1 Blue/White ignition trigger #4 ECU to CDM&COP E4
2 Orange/White ignition trigger #3 ECU to CDM&COP E3
3 Yellow/Blue Knock signal CDM to ECU K
4 Green/Blue combustion signal #1: Cyl #1 or Cyl #3 combustion signal CDM to ECU M1
7 Green ionization signal #2 COP to CDM I2
8 White ionization signal #3 COP to CDM I3
9 Orange/White ignition trigger #1 ECU to CDM&COP E1
10 Orange/White ignition trigger #2 ECU to CDM&COP E2
11 Blue/White combustion signal #2: Cyl #2 or Cyl #4 CDM to ECU M2
12 Red power from engine main relay +12v B
13 Black Ground Ground G
15 Blue ionization signal #4 COP to CDM I4
16 Grey ionization signal #1 COP to CDM I1

ECU

Wiring Diagram

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