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Web conference notes, 2021.03.18 (Joint Working Group)

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Web Conference, 2021.03.18

Joint Working Group - City Services

  • Every other week call at 9am PT / 12pm ET / 6pm CET

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Attendees

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Agenda

Main Topics

  1. Temporary City Services WG chair and open position
  2. Discussion of any unresolved issues that are a priority
  3. Ending a bit early for the OMF Federal Transportation webinar.
  4. Reminder: Take the State of MDS Survey and share it to your partners!

Minutes

Provider API "data processing" message - Issue 437

  • Would be good to add more things.
  • Adding new codes would be a non breaking change for 1.2.
  • Will tag providers on the issue to see if this is possible/know. Spin and Superpedestrian on the call and looking into it.
  • Most operators are sending back 200 response.
  • Suggestion to add a 102 response - server is working on this - more appropriate and clear than anything in the 400s
  • 400 class errors don’t capture this. It’s not an error, it's that the data/processing hasn't happened yet.

Crash Reporting - Issue 613

  • Accident info for cities. Knowing where the crashes occur can be acted on.
  • Already requested from many cities in different ways, and received from providers.
    • Some ask for nature of crash, types of vehicles, location/date/time, alcohol.
    • SF takes in self reported data knowing it has data quality issues. Pulling in other sources, try to link incident at hospital with where/it happens.
    • Use cases: infrastructure and public communication of issues/fixes, Europe press/issues with intoxication
    • San Jose gets collision data. Including if someone was under influence.
    • Minneapolis used it for quick build opportunities
  • Agree it could be monthly but needs to have more granular data
    • to be useful, at least lat/lon where it happened and time of day. Date in the month is not as important.
  • What is a crash, need to define what it is
  • Could add injury to capture more data
  • Agree it should be aggregate for sure, not on individual trips
  • Maybe give exact location and hour, but not day would be possible?
  • Police reports are sometimes public record. But other injuries may not be reported for a specific reason by the rider.
  • Does it save providers any work? Not if it loses data cities get now, and cities still ask for the more detailed reports. Could help replace requests from new/some cities.
  • Quality of data is an issue, since crashes are self reported.
  • Could add more data with everything that could be a crash, eg, ‘sudden deceleration’, so there are lots of data points to mask real crash incidents, but provide a novel, useful data stream.
  • Deceleration events - providers on call say their hardware doesn't have this yet.

Three main ways this crash data idea could go now:

  1. detailed location info for crashes. Privacy a concern. But cities may get this internally and probably more reliably already when there are injuries through police reports
  2. aggregated Provider Reports, useful for some cities
  3. sudden deceleration data - may not have this info, maybe for future
    • Spin and Superpedestrian on the call don't do/have this.
    • Note from time at Zipcar it's a hard problem.

Issue 628 moved to a future meeting

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