Ikea On/Off button turns off all groups/lights #853

vandalon · 2018-10-12T07:15:52Z

The Ikea On/Off button that comes with the new ikea tradfri plug seems to turn on/off all groups/lights in phoscon after connecting, without any configuration.

manup · 2018-10-12T07:21:16Z

Yes, see #846

We need to extend the setup process, so that the group binding happens automatically.

ebaauw · 2018-10-12T08:07:27Z

We need something similar for the innr RC 110 as well, but probably different commands to setup the groups, see #635. Would that be in the REST API plugin or in Phoscon?

vandalon · 2018-10-12T15:53:13Z

I've tried the binding dropbox but that did not work for me, and after trying all my lights where unreachable, don't know why :) It would be good to have a way to ignore the "to all" broadcast. I use the switches, without binding them to groups, within home assistant. So I don't "need" to bind them to any groups.

manup · 2018-10-13T09:32:42Z

We need something similar for the innr RC 110 as well, but probably different commands to setup the groups, see #635. Would that be in the REST API plugin or in Phoscon?

Should be done in the REST-API, for the Bush Jaeger switches it is done in functions:

checkSensorBindingsForClientClusters()
checkSensorGroup()

I've tried the binding dropbox but that did not work for me, and after trying all my lights where unreachable, don't know why :) It would be good to have a way to ignore the "to all" broadcast. I use the switches, without binding them to groups, within home assistant. So I don't "need" to bind them to any groups.

A group cast to all can't be ignored :) the only way to workaround this is to create a binding.

Kendobendo · 2018-11-19T22:48:07Z

Any update on when deconz will officially support the new IKEA on/off remote?

cappadanna · 2018-12-28T22:42:24Z

Is it possible to use the Deconz app to create a binding between the on/off switch and a light? I’m new at this and don’t understand the group thing.

Thomas-Vos · 2019-01-20T16:51:25Z

I tried to bind the on/off switch to a group, it shows successful, but the API and Phoscon still shows it toggles all the lights. Is there anything I can do to get these switches supported in deCONZ?

ebaauw · 2019-01-20T17:43:01Z

You probably need to use the dimmer after binding it. The REST API plugin only sets config.group when it sees the dimmer issues a group command.

manup · 2019-01-20T17:46:39Z

Per default the dimmer just broadcasts to the whole network, hence all lights react.
When a group binding is created the dimmer will only use that group.

Currently this isn't done automatically, I hope to get access to one switch in the next days and will add
the automatic binding so the dimmer is working more usable.

Thomas-Vos · 2019-01-20T18:20:28Z

Thanks for the quick replies. I pressed the buttons while it was binding, and a few times when the binding was complete, but the REST API still shows group 0 for the sensor:

{
	"config": {
		"alert": "none",
		"battery": 87,
		"group": "0",
		"on": true,
		"reachable": true
	},
	"ep": 1,
	"etag": "7341a3579ba5348584aea3d1da718e0c",
	"manufacturername": "IKEA of Sweden",
	"mode": 1,
	"modelid": "TRADFRI on/off switch",
	"name": "TRADFRI on/off switch ",
	"state": {
		"buttonevent": 1002,
		"lastupdated": "2019-01-20T18:06:43"
	},
	"swversion": "1.4.018",
	"type": "ZHASwitch",
	"uniqueid": "d0:cf:5e:ff:fe:d6:f3:33-01-1000"
}

It might be that I am doing this wrong. I'm trying to bind the sensor to a group with id 17 I created using the API.

Does this look correct to you?

ebaauw · 2019-01-20T18:23:20Z

Looks good to me. Did you also bind the Level Control cluster?

Thomas-Vos · 2019-01-20T18:30:47Z

Just did that as well. Again it shows "success" in the binding dropbox but the REST API still shows group 0. Are there any more clusters that need to be bound to the group? I just bound the On/Off and Level Control clusters.

ebaauw · 2019-01-20T19:52:45Z

Are there any more clusters that need to be bound to the group? I just bound the On/Off and Level Control clusters.

Not that I can think of.

Issue #853 By default the switch controls group 0x0000 which is a special global group in ZLL. This commit ensures that a new group is created and the switch is bound to it. Already joined switches need to be paired again.

Thomas-Vos · 2019-01-23T16:01:58Z

Thanks @manup for the fix! I can confirm that this commit fixes the issue. A new group is now automatically created for the switch. It is not visible in the Phoscon app, but the REST API does show it.

I am not sure why the manual binding didn't work for me previously, but in the meantime I got that working as well (before your commit). So that was a temporary issue.

manup · 2019-01-23T19:24:28Z

Thanks @manup for the fix! I can confirm that this commit fixes the issue. A new group is now automatically created for the switch. It is not visible in the Phoscon app, but the REST API does show it.

Cool thanks for testing this. The switch be available within the next two releases in the Phoscon App and the switch editor.

Kendobendo · 2019-01-23T22:55:31Z

Thanks @manup for the fix! I can confirm that this commit fixes the issue. A new group is now automatically created for the switch. It is not visible in the Phoscon app, but the REST API does show it.

Cool thanks for testing this. The switch be available within the next two releases in the Phoscon App and the switch editor.

Awesome! I'd like to extend my thanks as well. I'm sure there's a lot of happy campers right now. :)

RedUlf · 2019-01-29T20:19:55Z

Will the support for this be included in next release? It works now but since all paired remotes get the same event id in HA they will all work in the same way or is it some way of changing the event id manually?

The remote is not shown in Phoscon app but exported to HA successfully.

manup · 2019-01-29T20:31:10Z

Will the support for this be included in next release?

Yes, group and Phoscon App + switch editor support is implemented and works very well. Hope to get the new version out in the next two days.

flysen · 2019-02-03T10:29:43Z

I've a question regarding this on/off switch. It's not an option for me in the GUI to choose. Have I done something wrong?

Solved

Add it as generic switch works fine!

pi# lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Raspbian Description: Raspbian GNU/Linux 9.6 (stretch) Release: 9.6 Codename: stretch

I only have those two switches available:

manup · 2019-02-03T11:44:18Z

Add it as generic switch works fine!

Yes, currently there is no setup wizard for the IKEA on/off switch, so it needs to be added as Other switch.

callebridholm · 2019-02-03T12:04:34Z

Hi,
Thanks for adding this feature but I am wondering why this button is not integrated the same way as buttons from Xiaomi? I want to use this button for everything and not just IKEA TRADFRI switch or Zigbee lights in my Home Assistant setup. Then I maybe not will be able to group the button and ohter device together in Phoscon App. Wen using Xiaomi buttons I just add them with the Phoscon App and the when pressing the button it creates events that I can listen to in Home Assistant and the do the thing I want in Home Assistant. This IKEA TRADFRI on/off do the same BUT if I don´t add the button to a group it will broadcast message on and off to all lights connected to my Phoscon setup.

manup · 2019-02-03T12:09:38Z

I don't understand, the switch works the same like Xiaomi switches. Events are emitted in the same way.

BUT if I don´t add the button to a group it will broadcast message on and off to all lights connected to my Phoscon setup.

This is the default mode which the switch uses once entering the network (broadcast to all lights). Since deCONZ version 2.05.58 the group is created automatically when the switch is joined, so it will no longer broadcast to the whole network but only to this (empty) group.

callebridholm · 2019-02-03T12:30:24Z

I don't understand, the switch works the same like Xiaomi switches. Events are emitted in the same way.

BUT if I don´t add the button to a group it will broadcast message on and off to all lights connected to my Phoscon setup.

This is the default mode which the switch uses once entering the network (broadcast to all lights). Since deCONZ version 2.05.58 the group is created automatically when the switch is joined, so it will no longer broadcast to the whole network but only to this (empty) group.

I had this button paired since before 2.05.58 but removed it and paired it again and now it works perfect.

HenkeDahl · 2019-02-03T12:46:53Z

How do you pair this device? I was able to pair one button but have 8 more I want to pair. But non of the other pairs..

manup · 2019-02-03T14:20:54Z

You need to open the switch (screw on the back) and press the reset button 4 times quickly. All while switch search is running.

JoPe72 · 2019-02-07T21:54:34Z

I have Deconz 2.05.58 and I managed to add the switch as Other. However there is no group created automatically and if I click the switch it affects all of the lights. Even if I add one light to a group and I configure the switch for that group it still controls all of the switches.

Am I doing something wrong?

manup · 2019-02-07T22:27:30Z

Looks like the setup wasn't finished completely, can you please delete and rejoin the switch.

Guess we need some more code to ensure the related group and binding is created.

alexhardwicke · 2019-08-28T21:53:43Z

@alexhardwicke ever get this working? I am having same issue.

The latest update to deconz solved it for me, actually, so I'd recommend trying that - that is, v2.05.67.

thedannymullen · 2019-08-29T02:11:06Z

@alexhardwicke thanks I am on .66 version will poke around and see if I can find the next rev. I thought I was in the beta, need to check my repo settings.

alundstroem · 2019-09-22T20:05:31Z

@alexhardwicke and/or @thedannymullen, is the Ikea Trådfri on/off button working for you guys now? I’m using a ConBee1 (latest fw) and the .69 version of deconz and while able to add the switch as ”other” and having it recognized as Ikea Trådfri on/off I do not get any group created automatically ):

What can I do to resolve this?

alundstroem · 2019-09-22T20:22:38Z

Or... have I misunderstood how deconz is to handle the switch? I am able to add it to existing groups and have it toggle them just fine

alexhardwicke · 2019-09-23T08:02:20Z

@alundstroem I was also under the impression it was supposed to create a group, but just like you, I add the switch to existing groups and as of .67, I can actually configure the buttons (prior to 0.67 you could add the switch but had no way to configure the buttons).

alundstroem · 2019-09-23T08:04:54Z

Ah, good to know I'm not alone @alexhardwicke (:

Now... if I could just get the IKEA Trådfri Remote to work as it does on its own through deconz as well... (using "<" and ">" to cycle the color loop)

EDIT: turns out it wasnt "color loop" I was after... just cycling scenes... if only the "original ikea scenes" could be extracted and imported somehow (perhaps improved upon also...)

pergolafabio · 2019-09-23T14:29:34Z

i have 2 of those on/off switches, they were packed together with the smartplug
really like those simple on/off switches
can they be bought seperately ?

alundstroem · 2019-09-23T14:35:59Z

@pergolafabio yes they are available separately! I might be a little late in the home automation game (: I think that they were only bundled previously... but for as long as I’ve interested in them they have been available on their own!

pergolafabio · 2019-09-23T14:41:36Z

indeed, after googling, its not in the webshops , but seems its indeed available as : ikea 004.684.32

thedannymullen · 2019-09-23T17:09:00Z

Hello All! Yes my remotes are working fine even when deconz is not running.

I have not figured out how to make the color change work yet. I have not spent time on it though.

alundstroem · 2019-09-23T17:15:28Z

@thedannymullen I just created my own color switching by creating ”close enough” scenes, I got the idea from this issue #601

I’d like to remake it by (somehow) extracting the original scenes that the remote has... but I dont know how...

ebaauw · 2019-09-23T23:03:55Z

The colour (temperature) change buttons send manufacturer specific commands that are only understood by Trådfri lights in factory settings. These setting are broken when deCONZ configures scenes (or even groups?) on the light.

alundstroem · 2019-09-24T05:00:13Z

Well... Darn it (: thanks for clarification @ebaauw

FelixUster · 2019-10-12T16:37:10Z

Hello All! Yes my remotes are working fine even when deconz is not running.

I have not figured out how to make the color change work yet. I have not spent time on it though.

Can you tell me how you got it configured that your remotes still work if deconz is not running? mine are running the latest fw (AFAIK) but they do not create groups on their own. currently I added them as switches using the switch editor. But this only works if deconz is running. So I would be quite interested in your solution as it is what I am looking for

thedannymullen · 2019-10-12T17:18:36Z

@FelixUster you have to program through the api. I posted the command I used in another topic let me look.

thedannymullen · 2019-10-12T17:25:15Z

I posted in one of the issues out here the command I used.

Here is link you need to bind group. #1137 (comment)

It’s a one line command in the rest api.

FelixUster · 2019-10-13T10:30:22Z

I posted in one of the issues out here the command I used.

Here is link you need to bind group. #1137 (comment)

It’s a one line command in the rest api.

@thedannymullen thank you very much.

For someone with the same problem:

Here is everything necessary mentioned:
http://dresden-elektronik.github.io/deconz-rest-doc/

get an API Key
Check for the ID of the specific tradfri on/off switch

should look somehow like this:
"16": { "action": { "bri": 127, "colormode": "hs", "ct": 0, "effect": "none", "hue": 0, "on": true, "sat": 127, "scene": null, "xy": [0, 0] }, "devicemembership": ["43"], "etag": "f77f99bd9c267f2d1bae3dfee1d1e44e", "id": "16", "lights": [], "name": "TRADFRI on/off switch ", "scenes": [], "state": { "all_on": false, "any_on": false }, "type": "LightGroup", "uniqueid": "xx:xx:xx:xx:fe:65:11:76" },

--> Switch Group id is "16"

Get Light id's

GET to <Gateway IP>/api/<apikey>/lights
should look somehow like this:
"12": { "ctmax": 500, "ctmin": 153, "etag": "89ce272b42f0e784050ddf3f3bd7b9f6", "hascolor": true, "manufacturername": "Philips", "modelid": "LLC020", "name": "hue go", "state": { "alert": "none", "bri": 1, "colormode": "xy", "ct": 500, "effect": "none", "hue": 5448, "on": false, "reachable": true, "sat": 233, "xy": [0.5639, 0.3904] }, "swversion": "5.127.1.26420", "type": "Extended color light", "uniqueid": "xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:0c:54:f6-0b" },

--> Light id is "12"

Add light(s) to group (the on/off switch)

( Check "Set group attributes" in the documentation )

PUT to <Gateway IP>/api/<apikey>/groups/<group id>

with body:

{ "lights": [ "<light id>" ] }
PS: It might be necessary to add "http://" in front of the Gateway IP

thedannymullen · 2019-10-14T00:29:17Z

Thanks for summarizing!

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capellavacancies · 2020-03-05T09:54:31Z

Hello guys I've been trying to pair this remote with my conbee2 but I didn't succeed.
I tried with the generic option, reset the remote pressing 4 times (red blinks) than start flashing slowly but deconz can't see it !
I've got deconz installed as an addon on hass.io installed inside docker on ubuntu.
Everything is last version, the phoscon webui is able to see a "light" that doesn't do anything but can't see this switch. This is the square one, not the round one

any idea ?
It's my second zigbee remote and I already had to send back the first one (osram smart+ mini) because it wasn't compatible with this implementation of zigbee.
Do you think that it could work with ZHA ?
EDIT: I can provide logs and screenshot, tell me what you'd need
thanks

Elvys8 · 2020-12-10T23:19:49Z

I've a question regarding this on/off switch. It's not an option for me in the GUI to choose. Have I done something wrong?

Solved

Add it as generic switch works fine!

pi# lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Raspbian Description: Raspbian GNU/Linux 9.6 (stretch) Release: 9.6 Codename: stretch

I only have those two switches available:

@flysen
How did you pair it? I have the same options as you, but even as a generic switch nothing seems to happen. I've tried tu push the link button from 1 to 30 seconds with no success…

Bond246 · 2024-03-05T17:05:27Z

Hello,
i want to reopen this topic while i get problems with this switch after using it very long time without any issues.

In my general configuration deconz is just the bridge to talk to my zigbee devices via Node-Red. So i don't use groups in general.
Some days ago my this switch stopped working because of low battery. Today i changed the battery but the switch was still not working. So first idea was to update my deconz container to latest stable -> no changes.
Ok then i removed the switch from phoscon and started a new connection process. Without any problems i saw the switch again, i saw all button events in my node-red but then i saw that it always seems to change the on/off-state of a device in deconz, from devices and from groups.

In combination with my node-red that works based on the device states this makes a big problem.

So se question is how can i get this tradfri switch again just sending its state instead of switching the device states in deconz :)

Mimiix · 2024-03-06T17:37:42Z

Hello, i want to reopen this topic while i get problems with this switch after using it very long time without any issues.

In my general configuration deconz is just the bridge to talk to my zigbee devices via Node-Red. So i don't use groups in general. Some days ago my this switch stopped working because of low battery. Today i changed the battery but the switch was still not working. So first idea was to update my deconz container to latest stable -> no changes. Ok then i removed the switch from phoscon and started a new connection process. Without any problems i saw the switch again, i saw all button events in my node-red but then i saw that it always seems to change the on/off-state of a device in deconz, from devices and from groups.

In combination with my node-red that works based on the device states this makes a big problem.

So se question is how can i get this tradfri switch again just sending its state instead of switching the device states in deconz :)

Please check https://github.com/dresden-elektronik/deconz-rest-plugin/wiki/What-you-can-do-when-a-switch-turns-(almost)-all-devices-on-off

Otherwise, ask on the forums :)

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Ikea On/Off button turns off all groups/lights #853

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